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Jason Lisle: Creationism exists, but atheism doesn't
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RE: Jason Lisle: Creationism exists, but atheism doesn't
Not only that, but logic isn't endorsed by the Bible.  Logic is a tool of the devil and to be rejected by all Christians.  Indeed, they all do at some point in their thinking about religion.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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RE: Jason Lisle: Creationism exists, but atheism doesn't
This is it. This is how, more than anything else, we can tell how badly christianity, and specifically the fundamentalist sect of it, is losing ground in the marketplace of ideas: so much of its defense of the faith is little more than dictating the positions of their opponents, or just outright pretending that there are no opponents, and everyone in the world agrees with them. They can't compete in an actual argument, and so they take it upon themselves to speak for everyone else too, and wouldn't you know it, it turns out that everyone else secretly believes as they do! Rolleyes

The christian lack of respect for human boundaries and basic decency is sickening.
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#13
RE: Jason Lisle: Creationism exists, but atheism doesn't
Agreed, it's getting to the point where a 4 year old could see the gaping holes.

I have one argument/statement that I don't think they can counter:

I don't care if it's all true. I'll carry on as normal.

What can they say to that?
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RE: Jason Lisle: Creationism exists, but atheism doesn't
(May 13, 2015 at 11:37 am)robvalue Wrote: Agreed, it's getting to the point where a 4 year old could see the gaping holes.

I have one argument/statement that I don't think they can counter:

I don't care if it's all true. I'll carry on as normal.

What can they say to that?

http://listverse.com/2009/07/20/top-10-g...e-devices/

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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RE: Jason Lisle: Creationism exists, but atheism doesn't
He's a douchebag dickhead like all the rest of them at ICR.

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2014/09/...n-lis.html


Only idiot creatards pay any attention to these fuckheads at all.
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#16
RE: Jason Lisle: Creationism exists, but atheism doesn't
He seems to be saying that I don't exist! I never knew that.
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RE: Jason Lisle: Creationism exists, but atheism doesn't
I can't see these "arguments" winning over new generations who have access to the internet, can you? Angel
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#18
RE: Jason Lisle: Creationism exists, but atheism doesn't
It's just the same apologist "try harder" BS.

"God exists!  Evidence for his existence is everywhere!  You just need to know how to see it!  And even atheists know this!  They're just trying to deceive themselves and you for ill-defined, but assuredly evil, reasons!"
"Um... I've looked.  I've listened.  I tried praying.  But, I don't really see any evidence for god.  Not just your god, but any god."
"You're not doing it right.  You didn't do it honestly.  Try again, with an open mind this time."
"Wait, what?  Why are you claiming I wasn't honest in my search for god?"
"Because you didn't find him.  And by 'him', I mean my god, specifically.  Not those false gods."
"Whoa, wait, wait wait.... If I find your god, that means I was honest in trying to find him, it, whatever.  But if I don't, despite years of seeking and asking, I'm not being honest in my search?  Even if that search leads me to a different god?"
"That's right."
"..."
"So, as you can see, you're obviously doing it wrong.  You're doing it dishonestly.  Try again.  Try harder."

It would be laughable if it wasn't such an embarrassing way to think.
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RE: Jason Lisle: Creationism exists, but atheism doesn't
So ubiquitous that almost every human to have ever lived has come to a completely different conclusion.
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RE: Jason Lisle: Creationism exists, but atheism doesn't
(May 13, 2015 at 1:32 pm)robvalue Wrote: I can't see these "arguments" winning over new generations who have access to the internet, can you? Angel

Just because you have access to the internet now, that does not mean you will in the future.  Nor does your internet access mean that others have it as well.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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