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First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
#21
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
I am mainly posting here to have this thread show up in "my post's"

Alex, if you would be so kind, would you tell us the results of all the experiments being conducted (suitable for a dummy like me)? 
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#22
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
(May 21, 2015 at 1:00 pm)polar bear Wrote: I am mainly posting here to have this thread show up in "my post's"

Alex, if you would be so kind, would you tell us the results of all the experiments being conducted (suitable for a dummy like me)? 

Ok Smile

But you have to be aware that it's not discrete experiments being conducted at certain points in time - we'll have 40 million collisions per second, day in and day out, and the data from all the potentially interesting collisions (still many thousands per second) are collected in a big database. At regular intervals, experimentalists will prepare a search analysis and "unblind" the current data taken up to that point - it is always an incremental progress. If something should really stick out in the data like a sore thumb from the beginning, it will be announced after the analysis has been done, but who knows whether that is going to happen and when. Apart from sensational discoveries, what will happen is that more and more statistics are piled onto existing data to obtain more and more precise measurements of known things such as the masses of the Higgs and top quark. Whenever an interesting analysis comes out, I can mention it.
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#23
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
Nature is already doing experiments at 13 TeV, and much higher. Nothing awful is going to happen.
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#24
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
(May 21, 2015 at 1:06 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Nature is already doing experiments at 13 TeV, and much higher.  Nothing awful is going to happen.

That's correct, and I'm not saying that creating a black hole at the LHC would have awful consequences. Those are very unlikely for the reason you mention even if one can make micro black holes in the lab.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#25
Wimpy little toy.
Your description of this thing is disappointing.  There seems to be little hope that it can destroy the world, and so we are going to have to come up with another way to do that.  Why did they make the thing so little, and not go for something that would be dangerous for the planet?  Are countries too cheap to do that, because they have less expensive ways to destroy the planet?

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#26
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
(May 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: Your description of this thing is disappointing.  There seems to be little hope that it can destroy the world, and so we are going to have to come up with another way to do that.  Why did they make the thing so little, and not go for something that would be dangerous for the planet?  Are countries too cheap to do that, because they have less expensive ways to destroy the planet?

Patience, my friend, the end will come soon enough.

But actually, it's all your fault. The US were going to build one with 5 times the juice in the desert near Waco, but Congress canceled it under Clinton after they had already started digging, and now it's a big mushroom farm.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#27
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
First of all, it wasn't my decision to cancel the project (though I do like mushrooms!). Anything that has any chance of blowing up Texas is not something I would stop.

But if I have understood what you have said thus far, 5 times the power is not nearly enough to get the job done.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#28
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
Okay but when are you guys going to develop Transporters so I don't have to fly on these fucking crooked airlines anymore?
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#29
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
(May 21, 2015 at 1:32 pm)Alex K Wrote: H
(May 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: Your description of this thing is disappointing.  There seems to be little hope that it can destroy the world, and so we are going to have to come up with another way to do that.  Why did they make the thing so little, and not go for something that would be dangerous for the planet?  Are countries too cheap to do that, because they have less expensive ways to destroy the planet?

Patience, my friend, the end will come soon enough.

But actually, it's all your fault. The US were going to build one with 5 times the juice in the desert near Waco, but Congress canceled it under Clinton after they had already started digging, and now it's a big mushroom farm.

Yes, it was either the SSC, or the ISS.  ISS promised pork in every major congressional district, SSC merely 20-40 Tev.  Obviously Prospect of understanding the universe could never be any match for democracy.
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#30
RE: First collisions at the LHC with unprecedented Energy! (Ask a particle physisicist)
So when are we going to have things that are dimensionally transcendental?

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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