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8 atheist leaders actually worth listening to
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RE: 8 atheist leaders actually worth listening to
(July 10, 2015 at 6:30 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: Ok, now you're just preaching. What do you think you're going to accomplish by that?

Also, did you memorize the whole bible or do you get those from fortune cookies? -_-

I have something that IS relevant and it actually DID come from a fortune cookie from last nights dinner Tongue

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RE: 8 atheist leaders actually worth listening to
(July 12, 2015 at 10:22 pm)Dystopia Wrote:
(July 12, 2015 at 9:54 pm)Cephus Wrote: They can declare them anything they want, I have no obligation to listen to any of them and I don't.  I might read a book by Dawkins or Hitchens or whoever, but they don't speak for me.  I have no atheist leaders.  I am my own person.

This isn't so much about obligations to listen to anyone but how the social grouping of individuals leads to leaders being appointed and eventually atheists are no exception and they'll find causes to fight for.

Some people can do that, I certainly don't.  Nobody leads me.
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RE: 8 atheist leaders actually worth listening to
(July 13, 2015 at 1:35 pm)Cephus Wrote:
(July 12, 2015 at 10:22 pm)Dystopia Wrote: This isn't so much about obligations to listen to anyone but how the social grouping of individuals leads to leaders being appointed and eventually atheists are no exception and they'll find causes to fight for.

Some people can do that, I certainly don't.  Nobody leads me.


I want to thank every who gave info. Was interesting I posted the same question on Alt.atheism and all I got was attacked. They are very militant there. I was called a troll and worse for even posting this.

Like this forum much better you don't have hypatiab7 as your ruler
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RE: 8 atheist leaders actually worth listening to
(July 11, 2015 at 8:57 am)Dystopia Wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL - Dawkins is known most of all by being an atheist and writing books like The God Delusion, and only then as a scientist. He has a book called The God Delusion, he gets lectures to criticize religion, he has tweets criticizng religion. he is invited for debates to criticize religion - It seems obvious what makes him famous, am I right.

No, you are not right. He was already famous to people interested in evolution, having written several books on it, long before he wrote The God Delusion.

Quote:My problem - They promote groupthinking as much as any other person or group and some atheists seem them as being always right and that's a very dangerous idea. I listened to them, I have read The God Delusion - I don't get the big deal about it, I was expecting something more rational and intellectually sophisticated. It's terrible to think A+ is a bad group and suddenly Richard Dawkins' following cult is ok because Dawkins is different. I have no issue with any of them as people, and some points are good, but for the most part I was expecting more. Someone like Freud who actually studied religion and knew how to criticize it made more contributions against religion on a paper than Dawkins in a lifetime

Read his books on evolution.
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