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#Blacklivesmat
#31
RE: #Blacklivesmat
So, I'm curious- black civilians kill more black civilians than police do, as you say. What does that have to do with the movement focusing on police brutality against blacks? Are you suggesting that we should work on finding a solution for black on black crime (like, idk, police), and that would somehow stop the police brutality, even though they are two separate issues?
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

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#32
RE: #Blacklivesmat
(September 1, 2015 at 9:18 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:
(September 1, 2015 at 9:13 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: I don't know. Why did the guy who founded TTA call it "The Thinking Atheist"? He's obviously not the only Atheist who thinks...

That's not the same thing and you know it.

Please don't tell me what I know. I have no idea why it's not the same.

Quote:Out of curiosity, is there a website that #Blacklivesmatter has? One that explains the reason for their group? If there is, I'd be grateful to learn more about the subject

Wow. You really are lazy. You start a thread about something, admit you can't be bothered to back up your opinion, then can't even use google to find information.
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#33
RE: #Blacklivesmat
(September 1, 2015 at 9:15 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Right, because you wouldn't understand their point if they chanted #AllLivesMatter? after the very public death of a black man at the hands of a white person.

Well, at the hand of a cop, but yeah. Wouldn't make much sense.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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#34
RE: #Blacklivesmat
See I don't even know if BLMs purpose is to point out police brutality against blacks. But I think my point still stands that instead of singling one group out that experiences police brutality, they should include everyone. Black people aren't the only ones who suffer from police brutality, even if they are subject to it the most. Or do we need a #Hispaniclivesmatter, #Asianlivesmatter #Whitelivesmatter too? Huh?! how outrageous there can't be a movement for white people! They are so privileged and nothing bad ever happens to them! How racist!
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#35
RE: #Blacklivesmat
It'd be pretty cool not to need any of those movements.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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#36
RE: #Blacklivesmat
(September 1, 2015 at 9:31 pm)Exian Wrote: It'd be pretty cool not to need any of those movements.

exactly.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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#37
RE: #Blacklivesmat
(September 1, 2015 at 9:23 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Please don't tell me what I know. I have no idea why it's not the same.

Just a phrase, didn't mean anything by it. 

Blacklivesmatter, the emphasis being on black lives and that they are the only ones who suffer or are deserving of attention for their suffering while every race actually is effected by this problem. TTA does not give the impression that they thinks he's the only atheist that thinks or that only atheists think, to sane people anway. And that is why it's different.

Quote:Wow. You really are lazy. You start a thread about something, admit you can't be bothered to back up your opinion, then can't even use google to find information.


Guilty as charged. Did I mention how late it was?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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#38
RE: #Blacklivesmat
Bad Wolf Wrote:Blacklivesmatter, the emphasis being on black lives

The emphasis isn't on black lives. Or that black lives matter. The emphasis is on the absurdity that they would have to tell us that black lives matter. The only response to "Black lives matter" should be "Yeah, no shit", but it isn't. It's "Oh, yeah, somehow we forgot." No, even that's inaccurate; the responses have been scoffs.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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#39
RE: #Blacklivesmat
Come on Bad Wolf. Don't do the false dichotomy thing here. You know exactly how ridiculous that is, and you wouldn't allow it in another debate.

No one is saying that white lives don't matter. No one is saying that all white people have it made in the shade.

What we are saying is that a vastly disproportionate amount of police brutality, arrests, and incarceration is incident upon black people in the country. In Ferguson, where #BLM started, the freaking US Department of Justice released staggering statistics that by all measures are not unique to that city. The movement extends to the fact that we have a lot of school districts that are more segregated now than they were in the 50s.

In certain areas of the country, those statistics apply to Latin Americans as well. But for the whole county, they apply to blacks.

Being half black and very educated, living in TN, getting pulled over by a cop here is a frightening experience. I have had a gun pulled on me because I reached into my glove compartment to get my registration. I have been asked whose car I was driving because it was an Audi. I've been pulled over once.
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#40
RE: #Blacklivesmat
(September 1, 2015 at 9:37 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:
(September 1, 2015 at 9:23 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Please don't tell me what I know. I have no idea why it's not the same.

Just a phrase, didn't mean anything by it. 

Blacklivesmatter, the emphasis being on black lives and that they are the only ones who suffer or are deserving of attention for their suffering while every race actually is effected by this problem. TTA does not give the impression that they thinks he's the only atheist that thinks or that only atheists think, to sane people anway. And that is why it's different.

(bold mine)

Dude, their tag isn't #Blacklivesmatterandtheyaretheonlyoneswhosufferoraredeservingofattentionfortheirsuffering.
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