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13.2 Billion Year Old Galaxy
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RE: 13.2 Billion Year Old Galaxy
September 7, 2015 at 2:46 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 1:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(September 7, 2015 at 12:54 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: Why did they call it EGS8p7? Was 'Tom' taken?  ._.

To confuse the creatards.

wait we have to try to confuse them? i thought astro-physics was confusing enough.
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RE: 13.2 Billion Year Old Galaxy
September 8, 2015 at 5:53 am
Yes, the very evolved ningnongs on those old planets also believe they are Gods one true creation!

God's such a worship slut! He goes around telling every planet that he made the universe just for them and that they are very special!
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RE: 13.2 Billion Year Old Galaxy
September 8, 2015 at 8:11 am
(September 7, 2015 at 12:48 pm)Alex K Wrote: That's a damn young galaxy!  500 million years A.B. is not a lot of time for much structure to form.

This^^^

More evidence that the universe is older than our current models indicate?
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RE: 13.2 Billion Year Old Galaxy
September 8, 2015 at 8:23 am
(September 8, 2015 at 8:11 am)Ben Davis Wrote:
(September 7, 2015 at 12:48 pm)Alex K Wrote: That's a damn young galaxy!  500 million years A.B. is not a lot of time for much structure to form.

This^^^

More evidence that the universe is older than our current models indicate?

Or evidence that more of the foundations of galaxies and other large scale structures in the universe were direct outgrowth of the Big Bang, rather than product of subsequent, time consuming development.
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RE: 13.2 Billion Year Old Galaxy
September 8, 2015 at 8:29 am
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RE: 13.2 Billion Year Old Galaxy
September 8, 2015 at 11:04 am
(September 8, 2015 at 5:53 am)ignoramus Wrote: Yes, the very evolved ningnongs on those old planets also believe they are Gods one true creation!

God's such a worship slut!  He goes around telling every planet that he made the universe just for them and that they are very special!

That sounds almost like the behavior of some creepy fratboy sexual predator.

"No, baby, you're the one who's special to me... here, drink this..."
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RE: 13.2 Billion Year Old Galaxy
September 8, 2015 at 12:01 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 8:11 am)Ben Davis Wrote:
(September 7, 2015 at 12:48 pm)Alex K Wrote: That's a damn young galaxy!  500 million years A.B. is not a lot of time for much structure to form.

This^^^

More evidence that the universe is older than our current models indicate?

MORE evidence? I thought the 13.7 billion year figure was pretty solid.

When I was a kid, the oft-quoted figure was 10-20 billion years. By the time I was a young adult, it had been narrowed to 10-15 billion years. When they came out with the study showing 13.7 billion years, I was impressed that they had the confidence to quote it down to a 100 million-year window. It would be pretty embarrassing if it were found to be substantially off that.
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RE: 13.2 Billion Year Old Galaxy
September 8, 2015 at 12:29 pm
Still not as far off as the 6000 years creatards believe.
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RE: 13.2 Billion Year Old Galaxy
September 8, 2015 at 11:17 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 12:01 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:
(September 8, 2015 at 8:11 am)Ben Davis Wrote: This^^^

More evidence that the universe is older than our current models indicate?

MORE evidence? I thought the 13.7 billion year figure was pretty solid.

When I was a kid, the oft-quoted figure was 10-20 billion years. By the time I was a young adult, it had been narrowed to 10-15 billion years. When they came out with the study showing 13.7 billion years, I was impressed that they had the confidence to quote it down to a 100 million-year window. It would be pretty embarrassing if it were found to be substantially off that.


No, it wouldn't be. It is a step on the journey of discovery. We know why we thought it was 13.7 billion years old. If we found we were wrong, we would also know why the reason we thought it was 13.7 billion years old were not good enough.

The only time when being wrong is ambarassing is when one stake one's reputation on having the received truth. But thinking one has received truth is synonymous with being wrong.
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RE: 13.2 Billion Year Old Galaxy
September 8, 2015 at 11:26 pm
These observations are difficult.  A recent technique is to find a massive galaxy directly between us and a potential object VERY far away.  If the geometry is just right, the intermediate galaxy will amplify and magnify the distant object enough for us to study it.  The technique can magnify by a factor of 10X to 20X.  

Statistics indicate the number of times this technique can be used will be small, unfortunately.  If we want to look at more galaxies like this we will need a bigger boat telescope.
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