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RE: Is Christianity against homosexuality?
October 9, 2015 at 9:31 am
(October 8, 2015 at 8:24 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Yes its anti gay though there's no mention of lesbians that I know of. Due to when it was written it's a fundamentally un PC book. It's also anti-divorce, pro polygamy, and pro slavery. Not to mention deeply xenophobic and pro genocide. The vast majority of Christians have now come out anti polygamy, slavery and genocide. Most have decided that divorce is ok too. So it's not surprising that there's Christian movement on the gay rights front.
What interests me is that it appears to be silent on the issue of abortion except for one pro abortion mention in the OT. The idea being that it's okay to abort bastards.
(Emphasis mine)
Actually, Romans chapter 1 discusses women having "unnatural" relationships with other women. The Bible totally frowns on lesbians.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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RE: Is Christianity against homosexuality?
October 9, 2015 at 9:38 am
(October 8, 2015 at 9:53 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire and brimstone
I'm going to say that God doesn't like it one bit.
The Bible indicates that the sins of Sodom were pride, gluttony, and sloth. There is practically no mention of homosexuality, and there is practically no mention at all of the sins of Gomorrah.
If you're going to cite a passage in which Gaud clearly condemns homosexuality, stick with Romans ch 1:24-28, Leviticus ch 18:22, and Leviticus ch 20:13. Otherwise you just sound like you haven't read it.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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RE: Is Christianity against homosexuality?
October 9, 2015 at 10:08 am
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2015 at 10:09 am by robvalue.)
We should really start a bible class to teach people about their own religion, huh?
I've never even read anything from it ever up until the last couple of years, and I already seem to know more about it than most Christians I've run into.
I'm going to answer yes though to the poll, given the weight of evidence of his character I think it would be a dead certainty. If God had understood what it was, he would have hated it.
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RE: Is Christianity against homosexuality?
October 9, 2015 at 10:14 am
(October 8, 2015 at 6:00 pm)123abc Wrote: Hello,
I am new on this forum as you can see. The main reason for me to joining this forum is to ask a question about atheism, to be more correct, I had in plan to open a theme about " Atheist fundamentalism ", but I lost energy to finish my post, so I hope I will finish my post in next few days, and then open a thread.
Anyway, In the meanwhile, I would ask all of you a simple question, "Do you believe that Bible is against homosexuality". It seems like that some Christians believe that’s not the case, but to be honest, for me that is bullsh*t. I think Christianity, same as Islam or Judaism clearly stands against Homosexual behavior. I think there is just too many evidence to ignore the fact that, Biblical God is homophobe.
So, what do you think? If you think that Biblical God is not a homophobe , please explain why do you think so.
To my knowledge the Bible doesn't even recognize the current mainstream Western view of homosexuality.
The Bible is clearly against homosexual acts.
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RE: Is Christianity against homosexuality?
October 9, 2015 at 10:20 am
Religion adapts for marketing purposes, you can use any holy book to justify cruelty or compassion.
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RE: Is Christianity against homosexuality?
October 9, 2015 at 10:24 am
The bible expressly indentifies Homosexuality as a sin. Not the unforgivable sin, but a sexual sin. Like any other sexual sin Homosexuality needs to be attoned for. Those who justify this sin doom the homosexual to hell.
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RE: Is Christianity against homosexuality?
October 9, 2015 at 10:26 am
(October 9, 2015 at 10:24 am)Drich Wrote: The bible expressly indentifies Homosexuality as a sin. Not the unforgivable sin, but a sexual sin. Like any other sexual sin Homosexuality needs to be attoned for. Those who justify this sin doom the homosexual to hell.
Only they don't because Hell isn't a thing and neither is sin.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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RE: Is Christianity against homosexuality?
October 9, 2015 at 10:27 am
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No, the bible doesn't say that.
This is what I was saying about people not understanding the difference between sexual acts and sexuality. What chance did the twats 2000 years ago have? It's not like God could explain something to them they didn't already know, now is it.
Why am I teaching Christians what their own book says?
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RE: Is Christianity against homosexuality?
October 9, 2015 at 10:41 am
(October 9, 2015 at 10:27 am)robvalue Wrote: No, the bible doesn't say that.
This is what I was saying about people not understanding the difference between sexual acts and sexuality. What chance did the twats 2000 years ago have? It's not like God could explain something to them they didn't already know, now is it.
Why am I teaching Christians what their own book says? 24 People wanted only to do evil. So God left them and let them go their sinful way. And so they became completely immoral and used their bodies in shameful ways with each other. 25 They traded the truth of God for a lie. They bowed down and worshiped the things God made instead of worshiping the God who made those things. He is the one who should be praised forever. Amen.
26 Because people did those things, God left them and let them do the shameful things they wanted to do. Women stopped having natural sex with men and started having sex with other women. 27 In the same way, men stopped having natural sex with women and began wanting each other all the time. Men did shameful things with other men, and in their bodies they received the punishment for those wrongs.
So... to you this identification of sin (Which BTW if you take the time to read includes the desire to have homosexual sex along with the sex act) is not the bible expressly forbidding the act AND the sexuality/sexual identification?
This Romans 1 example is just 1 of a hand full of instances where all aspects of homosexual activity is identifies and forbidden.
Even if you somehow can get around all of this you still have to over come the biblical ban on all sex outside of a sanctified marriage. In that no where in the bible is homosexual marriage sanctified. Which again means ALL Homosexual activity is a sin. Because is the thought of sex with someone of the oppsite sex is a sin according to Christ Then we can safly assume the thought of sex with the same sex is also a sin given ALL Sex with the same sex is identified as being sinful.
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RE: Is Christianity against homosexuality?
October 9, 2015 at 10:42 am
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(October 9, 2015 at 10:24 am)Drich Wrote: The bible expressly indentifies Homosexuality as a sin. Not the unforgivable sin, but a sexual sin. Like any other sexual sin Homosexuality needs to be attoned for. Those who justify this sin doom the homosexual to hell.
If you think that homophobia is not just biblically but also morally justifiable then you're not the kind of person I would want as a friend.
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