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Inspirational thought of the day
#21
RE: Inspirational thought of the day
(November 17, 2015 at 2:16 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: I like the poetic structure, even if the content is abit fanciful.
If I squint my eyes I see a pleasing, soft looking brown shape. When I open them fully I see the smelly bastard of a dog that woke me up with its pacing in the middle of the night.
We can all make things appear more optimistic by diminishing our senses when faced with the pessimistic. Thats what drugs and alcohol are for. It doesn't mean anything.
Whilst writing this my inspiration came from Neil Degrasse Tyson's video/s "We stopped dreaming"


It's when he was talking about the earth and explaining how "Before we wen't to the moon, we had never seen earth as this big ball in space, the most well known photograph of the globe was taken at this point. Once people saw this picture, they started to see the Earth in a new light, because unlike a globe in class, it was the first time people had seen Earth not divided by countries, and without borders like globe models in class rooms. It was the first time people stopped thinking about Earth divided, but instead as one, and that's when organizations like "Doctors without borders" were started, because for the first time, people were seeing things in a global perspective, "Without borders"? Who heard of that, that wasn't even a thing until we saw that picture, nobody had that perspective."

^
That's what I was half attempting to recreate in what I posted, and half making it my own and adding ideas of my own.
It was a lot like what he said, but in a less direct sense, and more of a um....creative sense? I don't know, I like poetry that is boad, general, and indirect, the two i've written I wanted to write so that people could draw their own conclusions and meanings. Did it work? I don't know. I get the feeling people didn't like this one, which disappoints me but what're you gonna do I guess.


However, i'm quite confused especially by benny's response, I was aware that this was a forum of intellectual discussions, and posts, whether or not you like/dislike my writing, I don't understand saying "Save your thoughts to yourself", or "Don't post this here", I thought sharing your thoughts was exactly what this forum was for, discussing them whatever, but I can't accept what may have been just benny or other people telling me "You can't share these thoughts here". I would expect better from people who claim themselves as intellectuals to tell someone to keep quiet about their opinions and ideas.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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#22
RE: Inspirational thought of the day
(November 17, 2015 at 2:20 am)Quantum Wrote:
(November 16, 2015 at 9:42 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: You act like I am trying hard to make a poem, and have been working on it for weeks.

This is my 2nd poem ever, and both of them so far have been done in around 5-20 minutes each and didn't originally start out as poems.

In fact, even when I finished, I didn't intend for this to be a poem, it's also not like im claiming I am any great poet or anything.

No, don't take it too seriously, your ending was just so theatrical that I couldn't resist sabotaging it a bit . Carry on.
Yeah I know...

I guess what i'm realizing is that for things like this if people don't see it the way you see it they will likely not assign the same meaning you did, and think it's without purpose.

Seems like a lot of people didn't see it the way I saw it on this one....oh well..
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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#23
RE: Inspirational thought of the day
(November 17, 2015 at 2:30 am)heatiosrs Wrote:
(November 17, 2015 at 2:16 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: I like the poetic structure, even if the content is abit fanciful.
If I squint my eyes I see a pleasing, soft looking brown shape. When I open them fully I see the smelly bastard of a dog that woke me up with its pacing in the middle of the night.
We can all make things appear more optimistic by diminishing our senses when faced with the pessimistic. Thats what drugs and alcohol are for. It doesn't mean anything.
Whilst writing this my inspiration came from Neil Degrasse Tyson's video/s "We stopped dreaming"


It's when he was talking about the earth and explaining how "Before we wen't to the moon, we had never seen earth as this big ball in space, the most well known photograph of the globe was taken at this point. Once people saw this picture, they started to see the Earth in a new light, because unlike a globe in class, it was the first time people had seen Earth not divided by countries, and without borders like globe models in class rooms. It was the first time people stopped thinking about Earth divided, but instead as one, and that's when organizations like "Doctors without borders" were started, because for the first time, people were seeing things in a global perspective, "Without borders"? Who heard of that, that wasn't even a thing until we saw that picture, nobody had that perspective."

^
That's what I was half attempting to recreate in what I posted, and half making it my own and adding ideas of my own.
It was a lot like what he said, but in a less direct sense, and more of a um....creative sense? I don't know, I like poetry that is boad, general, and indirect, the two i've written I wanted to write so that people could draw their own conclusions and meanings. Did it work? I don't know. I get the feeling people didn't like this one, which disappoints me but what're you gonna do I guess.


However, i'm quite confused especially by benny's response, I was aware that this was a forum of intellectual discussions, and posts, whether or not you like/dislike my writing, I don't understand saying "Save your thoughts to yourself", or "Don't post this here", I thought sharing your thoughts was exactly what this forum was for, discussing them whatever, but I can't accept what may have been just benny or other people telling me "You can't share these thoughts here". I would expect better from people who claim themselves as intellectuals to tell someone to keep quiet about their opinions and ideas.

Well, I like it. Its structure is sound. Although I would also argue that the idea we are all one because we live on the same planet would be inaccurate. Its poetically lovely and inspirational but it doesn't hold up. I mean, technically my body isn't all one. Its a collection of things that produce actions and reactions. The reason I am identified by most as a single thing is because their senses can't perceive the complex number of parts that allow me to function. The difference however is if my liver fails (not a remote possibility) then I may cease to function. If humanity fails the world, the universe will not even blink. We are, at best, passengers. I suppose we could become more though? Time will tell.
Its doesn't really matter, works of art are rarely completely accurate. They are the results of our perceptions and thoughts. They can be beautiful even if flawed. The objective is not to craft a truth, it is to craft an alternative perspective that resonates with others it is shown to.

I can't really speak for Benny.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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#24
RE: Inspirational thought of the day
(November 17, 2015 at 2:50 am)RaphielDrake Wrote:
(November 17, 2015 at 2:30 am)heatiosrs Wrote: Whilst writing this my inspiration came from Neil Degrasse Tyson's video/s "We stopped dreaming"


It's when he was talking about the earth and explaining how "Before we wen't to the moon, we had never seen earth as this big ball in space, the most well known photograph of the globe was taken at this point. Once people saw this picture, they started to see the Earth in a new light, because unlike a globe in class, it was the first time people had seen Earth not divided by countries, and without borders like globe models in class rooms. It was the first time people stopped thinking about Earth divided, but instead as one, and that's when organizations like "Doctors without borders" were started, because for the first time, people were seeing things in a global perspective, "Without borders"? Who heard of that, that wasn't even a thing until we saw that picture, nobody had that perspective."

^
That's what I was half attempting to recreate in what I posted, and half making it my own and adding ideas of my own.
It was a lot like what he said, but in a less direct sense, and more of a um....creative sense? I don't know, I like poetry that is boad, general, and indirect, the two i've written I wanted to write so that people could draw their own conclusions and meanings. Did it work? I don't know. I get the feeling people didn't like this one, which disappoints me but what're you gonna do I guess.


However, i'm quite confused especially by benny's response, I was aware that this was a forum of intellectual discussions, and posts, whether or not you like/dislike my writing, I don't understand saying "Save your thoughts to yourself", or "Don't post this here", I thought sharing your thoughts was exactly what this forum was for, discussing them whatever, but I can't accept what may have been just benny or other people telling me "You can't share these thoughts here". I would expect better from people who claim themselves as intellectuals to tell someone to keep quiet about their opinions and ideas.

Well, I like it. Its structure is sound. Although I would also argue that the idea we are all one because we live on the same planet would be inaccurate. Its poetically lovely and inspirational but it doesn't hold up. I mean, technically my body isn't all one. Its a collection of things that produce actions and reactions. The reason I am identified by most as a single thing is because their senses can't perceive the complex number of parts that allow me to function. The difference however is if my liver fails (not a remote possibility) then I may cease to function. If humanity fails the world, the universe will not even blink. We are, at best, passengers. I suppose we could become more though? Time will tell.
Its doesn't really matter, works of art are rarely completely accurate. They are the results of our perceptions and thoughts. They can be beautiful even if flawed. The objective is not to craft a truth, it is to craft an alternative perspective that resonates with others it is shown to.

I can't really speak for Benny.
I know we are not all equal. I was actually going in the opposite direction. Where you say "I mean there are smaller and smaller things that seperate us all" I was saying "The bigger you go, the more Earth becomes indistinguishable by the small differences we distinguish it by, which is why we should all think bigger and not worry about these small differences, as on a cosmological scale they are meaningless".
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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#25
RE: Inspirational thought of the day
(November 17, 2015 at 3:05 am)heatiosrs Wrote:
(November 17, 2015 at 2:50 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Well, I like it. Its structure is sound. Although I would also argue that the idea we are all one because we live on the same planet would be inaccurate. Its poetically lovely and inspirational but it doesn't hold up. I mean, technically my body isn't all one. Its a collection of things that produce actions and reactions. The reason I am identified by most as a single thing is because their senses can't perceive the complex number of parts that allow me to function. The difference however is if my liver fails (not a remote possibility) then I may cease to function. If humanity fails the world, the universe will not even blink. We are, at best, passengers. I suppose we could become more though? Time will tell.
Its doesn't really matter, works of art are rarely completely accurate. They are the results of our perceptions and thoughts. They can be beautiful even if flawed. The objective is not to craft a truth, it is to craft an alternative perspective that resonates with others it is shown to.

I can't really speak for Benny.
I know we are not all equal. I was actually going in the opposite direction. Where you say "I mean there are smaller and smaller things that seperate us all" I was saying "The bigger you go, the more Earth becomes indistinguishable by the small differences we distinguish it by, which is why we should all think bigger and not worry about these small differences, as on a cosmological scale they are meaningless".

That only really works if you are a being on a cosmological scale. If you live down here thinking on that scale then those differences effect you. For example; I am not really concerned by the plight of the ant. Its troubles, its differences from other ants are indistinguishable to me. If that ant took a similar attitude to me it would be a dead ant very shortly. 
Viewing our troubles on that kind of a scale is not a luxury most of us have because life will kick our asses if we try. Much like if I walk around with two telescopes sellotaped to my head I would in theory have better vision but I would likely get run over when crossing a road.
But like I said, its a really good poem. Sorry if I'm hyper focusing on some details. My girlfriend calls me a "pedant", another way of calling me pedantic. lol
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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#26
RE: Inspirational thought of the day
(November 17, 2015 at 3:21 am)RaphielDrake Wrote:
(November 17, 2015 at 3:05 am)heatiosrs Wrote: I know we are not all equal. I was actually going in the opposite direction. Where you say "I mean there are smaller and smaller things that seperate us all" I was saying "The bigger you go, the more Earth becomes indistinguishable by the small differences we distinguish it by, which is why we should all think bigger and not worry about these small differences, as on a cosmological scale they are meaningless".

That only really works if you are a being on a cosmological scale. If you live down here thinking on that scale then those differences effect you. For example; I am not really concerned by the plight of the ant. Its troubles, its differences from other ants are indistinguishable to me. If that ant took a similar attitude to me it would be a dead ant very shortly. 
Viewing our troubles on that kind of a scale is not a luxury most of us have because life will kick our asses if we try. Much like if I walk around with two telescopes sellotaped to my head I would in theory have better vision but I would likely get run over when crossing a road.
But like I said, its a really good poem. Sorry if I'm hyper focusing on some details. My girlfriend calls me a "pedant", another way of calling me pedantic. lol
You're taking what I said way too literal, i'm intending this as just sort of a perspective-putting mindset. Not all the time, or whatever. Not to inconvenience you, but to just forget about small issues you may face like being made fun of, overweight, whatever, because it really doesn't matter, and you should think about broader, and bigger ideas. I can garuntee you someone who thinks about big ideas, or is constantly reading about something the size of the universe will take much less issue to small petty issues like having bad hair. This probably isn't the actual reason, but why do you think Einstein looked like he never combed his hair a day in his life? He probably didn't dislike it, but more importantly at least what I would theorize is that he honestly just didn't care because in contrast to what he was thinking about on a daily basis, in comparison who cares about hair.

That last part i'm not saying as factual, just kind of rambling on to stress my point.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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#27
RE: Inspirational thought of the day
(November 14, 2015 at 4:27 am)Quantum Wrote: And then the sun explodes and everyone dies...

8 minutes later!

I give you 7/10 for being poetic and to the point.

But the technical inaccuracy just killed the mood for me, sorry.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#28
RE: Inspirational thought of the day
(November 14, 2015 at 5:04 am)ignoramus Wrote: Y U B bastard 4?

He's right, you know. I've got a small plaque on the wall of my shop that reads 'Entropy Always Wins'.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#29
RE: Inspirational thought of the day
(November 17, 2015 at 4:02 am)ignoramus Wrote:
(November 14, 2015 at 4:27 am)Quantum Wrote: And then the sun explodes and everyone dies...

8 minutes later!

I give you 7/10 for being poetic and to the point.

But the technical inaccuracy just killed the mood for me, sorry.

No, you see, I simply didn't want to be so presumptuous as to just assume the standard clock synchronization convention...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#30
RE: Inspirational thought of the day
OK.
8/10 ... That's my final offer (sticks hand out the side)
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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