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RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
November 28, 2015 at 6:29 pm
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I just recently watched a Marvel's Jessica Jones episdoe where a woman was raped by a particularly horrible man. She discovered that she was pregnant with his child. She opted for abortion, because for her it was the right thing to do for her own sanity. Certainly, many women take advantage of abortion, but that is no reason to overthrow Roe vs. Wade, especially when it is still a very much needed law for women who should not be forced to live with an atrocity that damages them mentally and emotionally.
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RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
November 28, 2015 at 6:51 pm
(November 28, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think killing someone in the womb is just as morally wrong and unjust as killing someone out of the womb, but that is precisely why I don't agree with bombing abortion clinics. Or with the death penalty for convicted criminals.
And that doesn't extent to just humans, either. My friend just recently found a pregnant stray cat and took her to the vet to get her kittens aborted. She asked me for money to help pay for it because we are both the neighborhood cat ladies. I told her I would gladly help pay for and find homes for the kittens, but that I would not give her any money for the abortion. She went ahead and did it anyway, which made me sad. If we find stray kittens who need help, we take them in, we feed them, we help them. We do that because life is precious and we have a duty to help and protect the weak and vulnerable. But if they are still in their mom's womb we kill them? There is no difference. There shouldn't be.
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RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
November 28, 2015 at 6:52 pm
(November 28, 2015 at 6:51 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Is a bundle of cells without consciousness, without a heart or a brain, without emotion or reason; Is this a human being?
Is methane a fireball? Is water a block of ice? Is anything the thing it is before it has become that thing?
Potential is not substance, it is the chance for something to take form and it is lost as easily as the conviction with which it is pursued.
Noone gets credit for what they could of been, they get it for what they are.
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RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
November 28, 2015 at 7:03 pm
(November 28, 2015 at 6:52 pm)Mermaid Wrote: (November 28, 2015 at 6:51 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Is a bundle of cells without consciousness, without a heart or a brain, without emotion or reason; Is this a human being?
Is methane a fireball? Is water a block of ice? Is anything the thing it is before it has become that thing?
Potential is not substance, it is the chance for something to take form and it is lost as easily as the conviction with which it is pursued.
Noone gets credit for what they could of been, they get it for what they are.
The question I ask is "Is an acorn an oak tree"?
Only if you're really high.
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RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
November 28, 2015 at 7:27 pm
(November 28, 2015 at 6:51 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: (November 28, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think killing someone in the womb is just as morally wrong and unjust as killing someone out of the womb, but that is precisely why I don't agree with bombing abortion clinics. Or with the death penalty for convicted criminals.
And that doesn't extent to just humans, either. My friend just recently found a pregnant stray cat and took her to the vet to get her kittens aborted. She asked me for money to help pay for it because we are both the neighborhood cat ladies. I told her I would gladly help pay for and find homes for the kittens, but that I would not give her any money for the abortion. She went ahead and did it anyway, which made me sad. If we find stray kittens who need help, we take them in, we feed them, we help them. We do that because life is precious and we have a duty to help and protect the weak and vulnerable. But if they are still in their mom's womb we kill them? There is no difference. There shouldn't be.
Is a bundle of cells without consciousness, without a heart or a brain, without emotion or reason; Is this a human being?
Is methane a fireball? Is water a block of ice? Is anything the thing it is before it has become that thing?
Potential is not substance, it is the chance for something to take form and it is lost as easily as the conviction with which it is pursued.
Noone gets credit for what they could of been, they get it for what they are.
You didn't ask, so I will: after the embryo develops into a fetus, is this a human being, or a least a candidate for being human?
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RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
November 28, 2015 at 7:31 pm
(November 28, 2015 at 5:06 pm)Mermaid Wrote: (November 28, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think killing someone in the womb is just as morally wrong and unjust as killing someone out of the womb, but that is precisely why I don't agree with bombing abortion clinics. Or with the death penalty for convicted criminals.
And that doesn't extent to just humans, either. My friend just recently found a pregnant stray cat and took her to the vet to get her kittens aborted. She asked me for money to help pay for it because we are both the neighborhood cat ladies. I told her I would gladly help pay for and find homes for the kittens, but that I would not give her any money for the abortion. She went ahead and did it anyway, which made me sad. If we find stray kittens who need help, we take them in, we feed them, we help them. We do that because life is precious and we have a duty to help and protect the weak and vulnerable. But if they are still in their mom's womb we kill them? There is no difference. There shouldn't be.
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RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
November 28, 2015 at 7:31 pm
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(November 28, 2015 at 6:15 pm)Mermaid Wrote: CL, you strike me as a really kind and loving person.
That's because she IS!
Did that really warrant an exclamation mark, caps, bold, italics, and an underline?
Why yes, yes it did.
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RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
November 28, 2015 at 7:33 pm
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RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
November 28, 2015 at 7:34 pm
How odd 
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RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
November 28, 2015 at 7:58 pm
(November 28, 2015 at 7:03 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Only if you're really high.
Correction: Only if you're really high AND on mind-altering drugs.
I'm often really high without taking any substances at all. It's called hypomania 
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