Religion is Opression

[Little Rik]

Spirituality" is meaningless if you never engaged in of course.
No question about it.

We have to engage in spirituality just for it to be meaningful? What incentive is that?

It is like to have a car and never drive it.
Of course it meaningless

Seems like this supposed "God" you speak of is literally doing everything in his power to deteriorate any reason to believe in him in the first place. Also how convenient atheists who have engaged in spirituality fully, only later to have lost faith, are all collectively labeled as never having been spiritual in the first place.

Nothing really to do with not having been spiritual in the first place.
It is all about giving up before you reach the goal.      

Atheism on the other hand is dogma.
No question about it.

You're on an atheist forum, so stop with the utter stupidity in propositions like this nonsense. Dogma is classified as principles laid down by an authority. You know this doesn't apply, but yet, the willfully ignorant buffoon you are, you will still claim so anyways, just because you want to find some petty cheap insult that doesn't remotely make sense to throw at atheists without going in to further definition, hoping you can throw the single word out there without being questioned as a way to convey a negative, condescending, belittling, opinion without any real meaning behind it.

Crap, crap ,crap.
Anybody can engage in dogma.
Atheists are engage in dogma for the simple reason that they pretend to find out what is not physical by using physical science.
As simple as this.

How would you known whether God exist or not if you never use the correct tool to investigate?
You guys keep on relying on physical science as if God would be a physical entity.

Oh for the love of god, i'm so sick of some of the theists on this forum. It's not that the argument is flawed, it's that you know the argument is flawed yet you will still use it anyways.
If you claim that the correct tool to investigate God's existence doesn't exist, how could you POSSIBLY claim to know that god exists.

When i ever ..........claim that the correct tool to investigate God's existence [b]doesn't exist....?

Physical science? How old are you? How can you possibly, in any way, think that is the only form of science?

Did i ever claim that?
Are you joking?
Have you never read my post in which i talk about intuitional science?

Furthermore, how could you possibly demonstrate that this is form of science wouldn't be sufficient, without proving something existing outside of what's physical. Nobody's claiming god is a physical entity you twat, you're not even putting words in our mouths, you're putting words in nobody's mouth! Every theistic argument claims there is a being(s) that exists outside the physical, that may in some cases take on a physical form. However that is IRRELEVANT, as you have still failed to give us any evidence to even believe a being COULD exist outside the physical.

By expecting physical evidence you automatically say that God if exist must be in physical form.

That is crazy.
It is by using the correct tool that you can find out and that tool is better known as spirituality or intuitional science.  

Intuitional science?
Alright first, that's some made up bullshit.
Secondly, you're basically saying that the science that trumps all other science is...no science whatsoever.
Are you fuckin' off yer' rocker bud?
Never use physical science, oh yes, evidently all discoveries, achievements, every advancement dating back to the stoneages is a result of someone sitting in a room and thinking really hard about what they wanted to create, and because they just used their intuitional science skills, it was created like magic!
You're the epitome of bad religious arguments. You're a twenty year old with a stuffed animal sitting in a corner, asking it if it wants to join you for your tea party, who until you were nine imagined it talking to you, hit ten starting to wonder why it wouldn't respond, and never took that as a hint to question whether or not it was real, leaving you twenty still asking the same old question.

Your imagination is taking over your reason.
Did i ever say that physical science is crap?
You put the words in my mouth.
All i did say is that physical science is not the correct tool to investigate God.  

By the way, what the fuck is "Science"? Why the fuck religious people repetitively mention "Science" as some god us atheists worship, as if "Science" is some organization I will never understand. You realize you use science in your daily life? You're sitting on a chair I presume, well guess what, it exists because SCIENCE. Ever used a microwave? SCIENCE. Hell EVER BRUSHED YOUR TEETH, OR USED A PENCIL? SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!

I love physical science but i an not using it to investigate God.
Is this concept so difficult to understand?

The truth is, you don't even know what the fuck you're claiming. You just need something to chuck back at atheists, because they keep pressing you on the dogma that controls your life. For you to act so bewildered by people who have used science to come to a conclusion opposite your theistic one, blaming "science", you are essentially admitting not only intellectual defeat but the fact that you didn't even know what the fuck you were talking about to begin with.

Have a lovely day and a happy new year.