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A new Boson?
#11
RE: A new Boson?
Does this mean there are now two god particles?

Maybe the polytheists were right all along?
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#12
RE: A new Boson?
(December 16, 2015 at 10:43 am)Quantum Wrote: The problem is that there is afaik no alternative way to think about spin in terms of anything familiar that would more accurately convey what it is. So "behaves as if it were rotating, even though it isn't" is as good as it gets... and it's honestly not such a bad picture at all physics wise.

That just shows the limitations of our language and our concepts when we probe too deeply into the universe.  It really humbles a person.

Anyway, this is what Exian was saying his brain was doing.



Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#13
RE: A new Boson?
(December 16, 2015 at 11:06 am)Minimalist Wrote: Does this mean there are now two god particles?

Maybe the polytheists were right all along?

Maybe this time it's Satan's scalar!
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#14
RE: A new Boson?
I hope one of the earth shattering ramifications happens to be the accidental discovery of FTL travel.
I can dream.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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#15
RE: A new Boson?
(December 16, 2015 at 11:18 am)Faith No More Wrote: That just shows the limitations of our language and our concepts when we probe too deeply into the universe. It really humbles a person.

Indeed it does! But if we lived on the scale of Planck's constant, we wouldn't necessarily understand it better. We'd just have spin as part of our everyday vocabulary and had gotten used to it. And everyone would know, sure, spin, that's when you kick an electron sideways and it does that thing where it does that thing. Been there, done that.

Just like you think you know what a force is because you can point to an experience that roughly corresponds to it. But what is a force?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#16
RE: A new Boson?
(December 16, 2015 at 3:36 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: I hope one of the earth shattering ramifications happens to be the accidental discovery of FTL travel.
I can dream.

Ooh, do you remember the FTL neutrino thing a coupla years back that turned out to be a loose wire? That was fun while it lasted. I even published a paper on it.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#17
RE: A new Boson?
(December 16, 2015 at 3:37 pm)Quantum Wrote:
(December 16, 2015 at 11:18 am)Faith No More Wrote: That just shows the limitations of our language and our concepts when we probe too deeply into the universe. It really humbles a person.

Indeed it does! But if we lived on the scale of Planck's constant, we wouldn't necessarily understand it better. We'd just have spin as part of our everyday vocabulary and had gotten used to it. And everyone would know, sure, spin, that's when you kick an electron sideways and it does that thing where it does that thing. Been there, done that.

Just like you think you know what a force is because you can point to an experience that roughly corresponds to it. But what is a force?

it's that midichlorian stuff.

Thought everyone knew that . .
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#18
RE: A new Boson?
(December 16, 2015 at 3:38 pm)Quantum Wrote:
(December 16, 2015 at 3:36 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: I hope one of the earth shattering ramifications happens to be the accidental discovery of FTL travel.
I can dream.

Ooh, do you remember the FTL neutrino thing a coupla years back that turned out to be a loose wire? That was fun while it lasted. I even published a paper on it.

Yes. I think I do.
I was excited and confused. Then I was just confused. Sad
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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#19
RE: A new Boson?
Not just you. In the end though it was a very mundane mistake.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#20
RE: A new Boson?
(December 16, 2015 at 3:31 pm)Quantum Wrote:
(December 16, 2015 at 11:06 am)Minimalist Wrote: Does this mean there are now two god particles?

Maybe the polytheists were right all along?

Maybe this time it's Satan's scalar!

Or the Christ Quark?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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