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Dumbness from UC Berkeley.
#11
RE: Dumbness from UC Berkeley.
(January 5, 2016 at 6:29 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: Noma, providing a gapped god for theists since Gould invented it. Don't know what he was smoking that day, but he needed a good clip around the back of the ear.

A miracle would simply be a clear-cut macroscopic violation of the Laws of Conservation (Energy, Momentum, Angular Momentum, etc.)  For instance, someone walking on liquid water, whether fresh or with a high salt concentration, is impossible at room temperatures with one atmosphere of pressure, unless, one is using some sort of hidden technology to accomplish that feat!
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#12
RE: Dumbness from UC Berkeley.
(December 30, 2015 at 5:50 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It's bowl season, which is why they may not have responded to my email (or, perhaps they regard me as being a crank!)  Here you go:

http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0_0_0...science_12

And, the "offending" paragraph:


Quote:Science doesn't draw conclusions about supernatural explanations

Do gods exist? Do supernatural entities intervene in human affairs? These questions may be important, but science won't help you answer them. Questions that deal with supernatural explanations are, by definition, beyond the realm of nature — and hence, also beyond the realm of what can be studied by science. For many, such questions are matters of personal faith and spirituality.

Bullshit!  How about the complete, instantaneous healing of a verified adult amputee?

You need to be more careful when you go playing with the facts, and be especially careful who you accept them from - they can be more dangerous than a loaded gun!
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#13
RE: Dumbness from UC Berkeley.
Quote: Questions that deal with supernatural explanations are, by definition, beyond the realm of nature — and hence, also beyond the realm of what can be studied by science.

Who was that again who said, the invisible and the nonexistent are strangely alike?
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#14
RE: Dumbness from UC Berkeley.
(December 30, 2015 at 5:50 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It's bowl season, which is why they may not have responded to my email (or, perhaps they regard me as being a crank!)  Here you go:

http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0_0_0...science_12

And, the "offending" paragraph:


Quote:Science doesn't draw conclusions about supernatural explanations

Do gods exist? Do supernatural entities intervene in human affairs? These questions may be important, but science won't help you answer them. Questions that deal with supernatural explanations are, by definition, beyond the realm of nature — and hence, also beyond the realm of what can be studied by science. For many, such questions are matters of personal faith and spirituality.

Bullshit!  How about the complete, instantaneous healing of a verified adult amputee?

What is this referring to?
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#15
RE: Dumbness from UC Berkeley.
(December 30, 2015 at 5:50 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It's bowl season, which is why they may not have responded to my email (or, perhaps they regard me as being a crank!)  Here you go:

http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0_0_0...science_12

And, the "offending" paragraph:


Quote:Science doesn't draw conclusions about supernatural explanations

Do gods exist? Do supernatural entities intervene in human affairs? These questions may be important, but science won't help you answer them. Questions that deal with supernatural explanations are, by definition, beyond the realm of nature — and hence, also beyond the realm of what can be studied by science. For many, such questions are matters of personal faith and spirituality.

Bullshit!  How about the complete, instantaneous healing of a verified adult amputee?

You don't even have to get that specific.

Whenever a god claim makes statements about how the universe or life came about, they are directly making statements that are within the purview of science, and thus can be studied by science. 

Whenever a theist claims their prayers are answered, they are claiming to be a "god detector". Again, this claim can be studied.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#16
RE: Dumbness from UC Berkeley.
(January 8, 2016 at 12:38 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:
(December 30, 2015 at 5:50 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It's bowl season, which is why they may not have responded to my email (or, perhaps they regard me as being a crank!)  Here you go:

http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0_0_0...science_12

And, the "offending" paragraph:



Bullshit!  How about the complete, instantaneous healing of a verified adult amputee?

What is this referring to?

Something which every expert agrees is physically impossible, unlike, the "spontaneous" remission of cancer, which is completely natural, albeit, improbable.
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#17
RE: Dumbness from UC Berkeley.
(January 8, 2016 at 8:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(January 8, 2016 at 12:38 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: What is this referring to?

Something which every expert agrees is physically impossible, unlike, the "spontaneous" remission of cancer, which is completely natural, albeit, improbable.

So, satire against a theistic belief or something?

It just wasn't readily obvious to me with the way you wrote it.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#18
RE: Dumbness from UC Berkeley.
(January 9, 2016 at 1:38 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:
(January 8, 2016 at 8:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Something which every expert agrees is physically impossible, unlike, the "spontaneous" remission of cancer, which is completely natural, albeit, improbable.

So, satire against a theistic belief or something?

It just wasn't readily obvious to me with the way you wrote it.

If god truly existed, then he/she/it could prove his/her/its existence beyond any doubt whatsoever; after all, I can prove to you that I exist!  (But, I think that you have better things to do with your time than starting to meet-up with strangers on the Internet!   Big Grin )
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