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Brainstorm
RE: Brainstorm
(February 6, 2016 at 12:08 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(February 5, 2016 at 11:55 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: Fair enough. We'll just have to disagree on that point. I believe in bodily autonomy in general and especially in case of rape and failed contraception. I don't know if the old saying that it takes all kinds is true, but we sure do have all kinds with a ton of differing beliefs, don't we? Big Grin

P.S. Why can't you be ornry about it so I can cuss at you?!? Tongue

Thank you for being respectful. Smile   And yes, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. 
As Thump is fond of saying, I tend to make change in the coin tendered. You make it easy to be respectful.

(February 6, 2016 at 12:08 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: P.S. I've disagreed with enough people in my life to know how to handle it without getting ornery. (Most of the time anyway.)  Big Grin
See how you are! Now I'm gonna have to storm off in a huff and go sit in a corner and sulk! Big Grin (I know exactly what you mean about most of the time)
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(February 6, 2016 at 12:08 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: P.S. I've disagreed with enough people in my life to know how to handle it without getting ornery. (Most of the time anyway.)  Big Grin

(My bolding)

I read this as something similar but beginning with 'H'.

My mind......... it's so dirty.
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(February 6, 2016 at 12:27 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:
(February 6, 2016 at 12:08 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Thank you for being respectful. Smile   And yes, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. 
As Thump is fond of saying, I tend to make change in the coin tendered. You make it easy to be respectful.

(February 6, 2016 at 12:08 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: P.S. I've disagreed with enough people in my life to know how to handle it without getting ornery. (Most of the time anyway.)  Big Grin
See how you are! Now I'm gonna have to storm off in a huff and go sit in a corner and sulk! Big Grin (I know exactly what you mean about most of the time)

Heart
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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It's 1 handed mode again now.
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From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatalism

Quote:[...]Fatalism generally refers to any of the following ideas:

The view that we are powerless to do anything other than what we actually do. Included in this is that man has no power to influence the future, or indeed, his own actions. This belief is very similar to predeterminism.
An attitude of resignation in the face of some future event or events which are thought to be inevitable. Friedrich Nietzsche named this idea with "Turkish fatalism" in his book The Wanderer and His Shadow.
That acceptance is appropriate, rather than resistance against inevitability. This belief is very similar to defeatism.

(my emphasis)

Fatalism generally refers to the idea that we don't have a choice.

If there's no free will it doesn't mean that we don't have a choice, it just means we don't have a free choice.

EP from underneath the above hide-tag Wrote:[...]if you don't believe in free will, you can't possibly think anything is in your control - since you don't have any free will.

I do have control just as I do have a will. It's just that my will, my control and my choices aren't free. They're still there and I still have it/them.
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I agree with you. All I disagree with are definitions. I think everyone's a fatalist, whether they identify as such or not. This is more of a philosophical stance regarding language, not so much a disagreement about the existence of choice, will, control and so on - or whether they are free or not.
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Semantics, yo.
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