Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs

[Excited Penguin]

You can't blame me for deciding not to watch it. I consider my time to be valuable. I'm assumming you're irrational on this based on another thread you made. We are still talking about extraordinary claims about reality here. It's not like you're proposing we talk about an economic theory, or something like that.

If someone who I consider to be rational overall posted this exact same thread, I would be terribly interested in watching it, and then I would have a conversation with that person based on the video. You don't exactly make me want to do that. What else is there to say?

Not to add that you've shown you're dogmatically unwilling to change your mind in the face of (what I consider to be) better reasoning and/or evidence to the contrary. I'm not exactly sure what you're looking to achieve here, beyond inspiring ridicule and annoyance. You don't seriously think you're going to change anyone's mind about anything the way you're going about it?

[scoobysnack]

Well you have shown that you have made your conclusion without looking at the evidence presented, therefore proving, you don't know what these people are talking about, and why waste my time talking about something you don't know about? So I don't feel the need to respond to you further about this subject. In a forum or any discussion, you look at another persons point of view and then discus, not provide your perspective without addressing the information. I'm not making any claims, I'm just posting a video which you refuse to watch of people in the government talking about their experiences. I would say it would you sir who has been discredited.

That's fair, but I'm still not going to watch it until you take back what you said(implying it as fact) about energy, souls and so on.

All I can offer is my opinion, which is all anyone of us can offer. When I read people's responses I don't get upset because I understand perception of reality is a sum of ones experiences. I'm here to share my experiences of all I've researched. You don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you, but all I ask is watch the videos so we can discuss them, if you want to. I'm really curious what people think about the information provided in the video, not so much what they think they already know. So I apologize if I'm coming across as a know it all, because I don't know it all. Please let me know what you think of the people in the video. As far as facts, they are always arguable. Even history is just a version of events from a perspective, and there is always more to the story.

[Excited Penguin]

That's fair, but I'm still not going to watch it until you take back what you said(implying it as fact) about energy, souls and so on.

All I can offer is my opinion, which is all anyone of us can offer. When I read people's responses I don't get upset because I understand perception of reality is a sum of ones experiences. I'm here to share my experiences of all I've researched. You don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you, but all I ask is watch the videos so we can discuss them, if you want to. I'm really curious what people think about the information provided in the video, not so much what they think they already know.

I'm ready to bend over backwards to reach some common ground with you.

Is there any evidence that humans have made contact with extraterrestrials and that they're trying to hide it?

Why do you think I should watch this video? Please tell me exactly who is present in it and what is being talked about in it, or better yet, why do you think that I should watch it? 

Should I look for a series of documentaries that you should watch as well? Would you do it? Should I recommend you read a series of books? Would you do that?

[Excited Penguin]

Fine, I'm sorry to have gone off-topic here. I'll wait for someone else to watch the video, I'm not willing to do it. I don't believe there's any factual evidence to be had concerning this dilemma(as yet), and I'm not exactly interested in this kind of speculations about it either, so that's that.

[scoobysnack]

All I can offer is my opinion, which is all anyone of us can offer. When I read people's responses I don't get upset because I understand perception of reality is a sum of ones experiences. I'm here to share my experiences of all I've researched. You don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you, but all I ask is watch the videos so we can discuss them, if you want to. I'm really curious what people think about the information provided in the video, not so much what they think they already know.

I'm ready to bend over backwards to reach some common ground with you.

Is there any evidence that humans have made contact with extraterrestrials and that they're trying to hide it?

Why do you think I should watch this video? Please tell me exactly who is present in it and what is being talked about in it, or better yet, why do you think that I should watch it? 

Should I look for a series of documentaries that you should watch as well? Would you do it? Should I recommend you read a series of books? Would you do that?

There's a lot of information that extraterrestrials have made contact with humans in my opinion but there is no reason for the public to know about military secrets. I could provide some info about that, but like I said in the end we will all form our own conclusions.

If you post a video I'll watch it for sure if you want me to. I listen to documentaries while I work or at home.

This is a press conference in front of the national press club with about 20 people who worked in military, NASA, and other government agencies. It's hosted by the head of the Disclosure project who briefs the presidents, congress, and other leaders of the world. It has Verner Von Braun's assistant who was brought over from Nazi Germany under operation paperclip to head up the development of the rockets that took humans to the moon. There is a lot of info in that video, and a lot more from the other 500 witnesses in government that are part of the organization to declassify the information so the public can know what is currently secret.

[Minimalist]

Not everyone is impressed.

http://occupytheory.org/steven-greer-hoax-debunked

Steven Greer Hoax Debunked

[GUBU]

I wanted to share this press conference for people to watch, which in my opinion is the best information out there of extraterrestrials, and UFOs. It's all government and military workers talking about their involvement in the whole phenomena. Very high level people talking about the technology, continued government secrecy and cover-up, and basically retired people who want the people of earth to know what they know, and for the governments to declassify and make public the information.

Here's the website:  http://www.disclosureproject.org/

There are hundreds of hours of interviews to listen to.

Here's the press conference that came out in 2001, just before 9/11 which overshadowed it. Let me know what you think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

You want me to watch the above video created by conspiracists who present no supporting evidence fo their claims. Well thats a tough decision to make, on the one hand they make astounding claims and try and cover up their lack of evidence with 'it's a goverment conspiracy. The man's trying to hide the truth, maaan' which is great evidence for their claims. On the other...

No wait! The answer is obvious, no fucking way am i going to watch that pos created by nut job conspiracy theorists. They have nothing only wild claims with no evidence, an it is not worth my while giving them the time of day, much less two hours of attention (5 minutes I may have watched for the undoubted comedy value)

[drfuzzy]

Oh geez, first NDE's and now aliens.  If you're going to swim in the woo-pool, might as well jump in fully clothed, right Scoob?

It's a big universe.  A very, very, incomprehensibly big universe.  The likelihood that other life exists is pretty good.  I like that idea.  I enjoyed reading about finding evidence of water on Mars - stuff like that.  But it's just an idea.  COULD aliens have visited Earth?  Oh, it's possible.  But looking at, say, old Mayan carvings and deciding that one looks like a weird dude in a spacesuit isn't quite enough evidence for me.  Now, if you find that very same carving in a cave in Australia and Japan and Africa and Germany . . . preferably with a weird skeleton and remnants of a spacesuit . . . that would be interesting.

Otherwise, for me, all of the alien stuff goes in the same mental folder with god, NDE's, OBE's, ghosts, mediums, crystal energies, etc.  Not enough data.  Heck, Bigfoot is more likely.

[Jenny A]

I think it's highly probable that there is life elsewhere in the universe. However, I find it highly improbable that intellegent aliens have visited the earth. It's a big universe and travelng would take much time. I find it even less probable that if such a thing has happened, that there is a conspericy to cover it up.

I don't have an hour to waste figuring out if your entertainmentary has anything new in it. Care to summerize the evidence Scooby?

[scoobysnack]

Not everyone is impressed.

http://occupytheory.org/steven-greer-hoax-debunked

Steven Greer Hoax Debunked

Read through that and it didn't address any of 500 witnesses in the government that are willing testify before congress under oath that they are saying is true. Since not a single person has watched this video that has posted a response at least, i'm not surprised at the subsequent responses, which are simple disbelief, and the assumption that our government doesn't lie, and could not keep something this big a secret, especially with all governments around the world. I agree seems a bit strange, but after researching for years about this, and listening to many hours of testimony, along with research outside of this, there is simply a lot that the people of the world are kept in the dark about.

If you really had an argument, one of the best ones is that this is all a psyop, where Greer is a willing useful idiot being fed false information, and being provided with government workers lying about everything in order to have people blame highlevel classified technology rather than government black projects. Basically a psychological slide. I actually take that into consideration, and know how crazy this all sounds. And of course that would be a big conspiracy in itself.


I've posted this press conference on numerous forums and this is the only one where people actually took pride in not learning something new. Kind of amazing actually.