What do Christians Mean by "Restoe our Nation?"

[Minimalist]

I'm not sure about "restoe..."

But to Restore it is to put God back into how we govern ourselves. to restore it back to how our founding Fathers established it

Well fuck him and you!

In case you forgot, dickhead, the founding fathers wrote your fucking god out of the constitution.

[GodCherry]

Exactly, because it benefits them and they don't care about anyone else.

You could always give it back... I'm sure the tribe who got the Island of Manhattan for a glass bead necklace would gladly trade back

I'm not the one trying to go back in time to revive exploitation.   I'm also not trying to stifle other people's civil rights based on their religious beliefs, ethnicity, gender or sexual preferences.

[Tiberius]

But to Restore it is to put God back into how we govern ourselves. to restore it back to how our founding Fathers established it

I'm intrigued how you can reconcile this view with the Constitution, which states:

"but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article VI, Clause 3)

Additionally, the 1st Amendment states:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

It seems, then, that the founding fathers made it quite explicit that "God" should not be involved in how we govern ourselves, but rather that public officials did not have to be religious, and that the government of the United States could not declare any official religion.

What makes you think otherwise?

[Minimalist]

I bet he read it in his fucking bible.

[AFTT47]

I'm not sure about "restoe..."

But to Restore it is to put God back into how we govern ourselves. to restore it back to how our founding Fathers established it

Are you telling us you're from a parallel universe? It must be something like that because what you describe never existed in this one.

[Chad32]

Like I said, some people actually believe we were founded as a christian theocracy for some reason.

[abaris]

Exactly, because it benefits them and they don't care about anyone else.

I guess, the select few still living, would be pretty glad over Manhattan and it's income.

[athrock]

I heard a Christian man prying over lunch. I didn’t hear everything he said,     but he started asking god about stuff that had little to do with food.  I made out something about “Lord help them restore this great nation.” I missed who “them” is.

It struck me as odd because it sounds like the same thing the tea baggers say when they talk about taking the nation back. Take it back from where? Restore it from what to wheat?

I know they’re not talking about police brutality, fascism, political corruption, poverty, social inequality or capital graft. They never had a problem with these things before.

So what are they talking about?

Oh, gee, I dunno...maybe they want to see our nation restored to when...


...kids said, "Yes, ma'am" and "Yes, sir" and showed respect to anyone over 21. 

...drugs were something prescribed by a doctor. 

...Coke was a soft drink that started in Atlanta and conquered the world.

...kids might sneak a drink of alcohol but not enough that their parents would notice. 

...couples waited until they were married before they had sex. 

...couples got married before living together.

...cars had fins and the AM radio was its most important part. 

...you could gas up dad's car for a date at the hop for only a couple of dollars.

...gas stations washed your windshield and checked your fluids for just a couple of pennies more.

...becoming an Eagle Scout was something that got your name in the paper.

...making straight A's was something to be proud of instead of something to hide to avoid being ostracized.

...everyone who had a gun used it for hunting and not for protection.

...you didn't know anyone whose parents were divorced. 

...you didn't mind being home by dark because all your friends had a curfew, too. 

...you knew all your neighbors and offered to get the mail and the paper for them when they went on vacation. 

...fishing with Grandpa meant hearing about "the Big One", but you didn't hear about HIS medals until after he died because he never mentioned them. 

...a covered dish supper at the church was something everyone looked forward to. 

...you could listen to the hottest new music on your radio with your grandmother in the car and not get embarrassed by the lyrics. 

...you could actually understand all the words of all the songs. 

...the best bands all had "and his orchestra" in their name. 

...someone could talk about "Our Gang" and they meant Alfalfa, Spanky and Buckwheat and not the Bloods or the Crips.

...there wasn't anything nostalgic about a Norman Rockwell painting because your hometown and everyone you knew looked just like that. 

...you knew what your friends were watching on TV because everyone home was watching the same show. 

...the Tonight Show had guests like Frank, Dean, and Sammy and you didn't need to wonder what their last names were. 

...you knew the answer to the question, "Hey kids, what time is it?"

[abaris]

Oh, gee, I dunno...maybe they want to see our nation restored


To when kids said, "Yes, ma'am" and "Yes, sir" and showed respect to anyone over 21. 

To when drugs were something prescribed by a doctor. 

To a time when couples waited until they were married before they had sex. 

To a time when couples got married before living together.

To when kids might sneak a drink of alcohol but not enough that their parents would notice. 

In short, to a time that never existed in the first place. Formalities like sir and ma'am aside.

Oh gee, as if there was no drug trade in the 20ies, 30ies, 40ies and 50ies. As if there wasn't premarital sex since humanity existed. The only difference being, kids being less informed about the consequences back then. Oh, and there was absolutely no boozing going on between 1920 and 1933.

[The Valkyrie]

But to Restore it is to put God back into how we govern ourselves. to restore it back to how our founding Fathers established it

I'm intrigued how you can reconcile this view with the Constitution, which states:

"but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article VI, Clause 3)

Additionally, the 1st Amendment states:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

It seems, then, that the founding fathers made it quite explicit that "God" should not be involved in how we govern ourselves, but rather that public officials did not have to be religious, and that the government of the United States could not declare any official religion.

What makes you think otherwise?

And then there's the Treaty of Tripoli which states that the US was not founded as a Christian nation.