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RE: Report System Abuse Rule
February 15, 2016 at 5:07 am
People are allowed to publicly dislike you, EP. You made a reputation for yourself, and you're going to have to live with that. Some people will forgive you and allow you to create a new persona, most won't.
Especially when the real EP peeks his head out about once a week.
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RE: Report System Abuse Rule
February 15, 2016 at 5:08 am
Pretending to have the power to ban someone yourself however is against the rules.
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RE: Report System Abuse Rule
February 15, 2016 at 5:14 am
(February 15, 2016 at 5:07 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: People are allowed to publicly dislike you, EP. You made a reputation for yourself, and you're going to have to live with that. Some people will forgive you and allow you to create a new persona, most won't.
Especially when the real EP peeks his head out about once a week.
I wasn't talking about publicly disliking someone. I specified what I was talking about. I still didn't get an answer.
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RE: Report System Abuse Rule
February 15, 2016 at 5:15 am
(February 15, 2016 at 5:08 am)robvalue Wrote: Pretending to have the power to ban someone yourself however is against the rules.
How precise does the phrasing need to be before someone can be classified as having done that, though?
Can I send you a PM with a post I'm concerned about and ask your opinion of it? Maybe this will settle it. I wasn't sure whether to do that or not, as I didn't know how the rules are to be interpreted exactly, thus my creating this thread.
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RE: Report System Abuse Rule
February 15, 2016 at 5:18 am
Sure, you can do that. I'll let you know what I think, or I'll get further opinions if necessary.
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RE: Report System Abuse Rule
February 15, 2016 at 5:24 am
(February 15, 2016 at 5:15 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 15, 2016 at 5:08 am)robvalue Wrote: Pretending to have the power to ban someone yourself however is against the rules. How precise does the phrasing need to be before someone can be classified as having done that, though?
I'm going to ban you.
Do that again and you'll get banned.
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Report System Abuse Rule
February 15, 2016 at 11:29 am
(February 15, 2016 at 3:04 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Quote:Posts which violate the rules should be reported to staff in an appropriate manner. Creating a thread to complain about a member or a post is not allowed.
This is in the rules. I wonder why this part of the Report System Abuse Rule is in place. I hope someone enlightens me as to the explicit purpose of this part of this rule. Thank you.(I may have further questions once this gets answered)
Because it is immature, and doesn't lead to informative discussions. It's mud slinging. Do you want this forum to turn into the "comments" section of a YouTube video? Wait...of course you do. What was I thinking?
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Report System Abuse Rule
February 15, 2016 at 11:35 am
(February 15, 2016 at 4:50 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 15, 2016 at 4:44 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Because the entire purpose of creating said thread would be to put a person on blast in front of everyone. This would create an environment in which people might feel like if they screw up, they'll be publically shamed. Also, it assumes the person who created the thread has the ability/knowledge to determine what is a rule violation and what is not. The fact is, the vast majority of the reports we get are voted "no action." If everyone who reported those threads were to make a public thread, we'd have hundreds of threads calling out people for doing something that the staff would deem not a violation. Lastly, sometimes the "no action" votes wouldn't be so popular among the forum-at-large. If these "reports" were made publicly, it would put undue influence on the staff to act by what's popular, rather than abiding by the rules.
This made no sense to me whatsoever. Rephrase, if necessary.
Basically, my question is, why is it not allowed to complain about someone in that manner in an especially created thread and yet it is allowed to so in a non-related thread(with a simple reply/post). Doesn't the latter scenario raise all the same problems as listed by you above concerning the former scenario? I understand that there's a difference between creating a thread with the sole purpose of shaming someone in this manner and replying off-topic in a non-related thread with a similar intent in mind, but isn't the latter wrong for the same reasons?
GOD, you are fucking annoying, EP. What is your problem, seriously? You are like the kid on the playground who runs around pushing other kids down because he's bored and craves a reaction. If you don't like the rules here, then do us all a favor and leave. It's too bad, because you seem like an intelligent, inquisitive person, but you have the emotional maturity of a 10 year old...
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RE: Report System Abuse Rule
February 15, 2016 at 11:56 am
(February 15, 2016 at 3:52 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 15, 2016 at 3:44 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Not only would creating a thread to highlight why some user violates the rules also violate the "No Calling Out" rule, but creating the thread so the entire membership could see it is inappropriate and would not be conducive to keeping members around.
Why is it inappropriate for the entire membership to see it and why do you think it wouldn't be conducive to keeping members around?
Also, do you agree that people on this site mostly use the New Posts or Today's Posts features to navigate and view different threads and posts and not the different sections of the forum that divide the types of threads thematically, and so how does it make sense to disallow someone from doing this in a thread especially created with this purpose in mind and not someone who does it in an ongoing thread about something else? If the purpose here is for the members not to have to see it then, surely, that purpose is not served adequately, given the current stipulations of that part of that rule.
This isn't a unique rule to this website it is quite common across the internet. It isn't done to hide anything, it is done to value the members. Even outside the internet, in real life, while it is ok to report a crime to police, government itself in the west does not make public displays of punishment, like Saudi Arabia publicly executes you for apostasy. This website keeping certain exchanges private is no different than a judge having a sidebar with lawyers that the gallery does not see. It still allows members to comment on rules and there is also already an open thread about bans that members do see.
There is no funny business going on here. There is also another thread about rules too. If the owners and admins were not objective there would have been carpet bombing bans for the slightest boo. That is not what goes on here. And there is no lone wolf admin who can act alone in any case.
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RE: Report System Abuse Rule
February 15, 2016 at 12:03 pm
(February 15, 2016 at 3:52 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 15, 2016 at 3:44 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Not only would creating a thread to highlight why some user violates the rules also violate the "No Calling Out" rule, but creating the thread so the entire membership could see it is inappropriate and would not be conducive to keeping members around.
Why is it inappropriate for the entire membership to see it and why do you think it wouldn't be conducive to keeping members around?
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