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Documentary: Sword and the Crescent
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Documentary: Sword and the Crescent
WARNING: This documentary is produced by (and for) Christians. It is HEAVY with Jesus. You have been warned.

Nonetheless, if you want a 3-hour hit of well-researched Islamophobia, you're in for a treat.

Here are some segments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efRRknDAuHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub74zlhAywo

And here is the full documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk_VwZxN9bA

More videos here:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...hjpHxD2tid

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf7UKsl...UwsMMO48xw
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Idiot posting idiotic links by obscure sources, expecting to be taken seriouslly.

Next.
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Eh, what is this crap? Muhammad, world's most evil man? So they are trying to argue that Muhammad was more evil than Adolf Hitler, with that clearly rhetorical question, or something? Muhammad may have been evil, but nowhere near the world's most evil.

He did, however, inspire some very nasty people, like Aurangzeb for example. But, equally, you can also say he inspired some much nicer people like Mansa Musa. People interpret Muhammad and the Quran how they want to interpret them, and will be biased.

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(February 21, 2016 at 1:16 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Eh, what is this crap? Muhammad, world's most evil man? So they are trying to argue that Muhammad was more evil than Adolf Hitler, with that clearly rhetorical question, or something? Muhammad may have been evil, but nowhere near the world's most evil.

He did, however, inspire some very nasty people, like Aurangzeb for example. But, equally, you can also say he inspired some much nicer people like Mansa Musa. People interpret Muhammad and the Quran how they want to interpret them, and will be biased.

Um no see this is the part of the left I don't like. The empathy is there, but it still remains that the non violent left of any religion is still using the same books that the violent right is.  I think while you are not wrong, I think we should be pointing out that the religious justifications for either compassion or cruelty are not coming out of the books themselves, but our own evolution, the books are merely excuses to do either.
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Was Mohammed more evil than Moses?
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I think I understand what you're saying: People are often better than the deities they worship. That's why people are tolerant. I understand people will be more violent if they looked at their religious texts without ignoring the inconvenient parts. But as there's no objective interpretation, aren't all ways of reading the text equally valid?

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Have you looked at the ass he pulled his shit from this time?

You honestly grace him with debating the crap. Do me a favor and look up what Reformed Apologetics Ministries is all about, will you?
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(February 21, 2016 at 1:32 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote:



I think I understand what you're saying: People are often better than the deities they worship. That's why people are tolerant. I understand people will be more violent if they looked at their religious texts without ignoring the inconvenient parts. But as there's no objective interpretation, aren't all ways of reading the text equally valid?

BINGO, religion, and even the more earthy polytheism and "atheist philosophies" they like to call them as a dodge, all religions are are artificial gap answers, and while they produce social order, they are all still gap answers. Our real source of compassion and our desire to harm others when we perceive a threat, stems from our evolutionary social order and fight or flight. 

Civility in the west isn't a result of religion, civility in the west is because our natural empathy has allowed us to ignore the more barbaric parts of our evolution in terms of the gap answers humans wrote into holy books to make excuses to do those things. In layperson's terms, we've learned to cherry pick and ignore the more violent tribal parts of holy books.
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(February 21, 2016 at 1:16 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: much nicer people like Mansa Musa.

Gotta love good auld Mansa, he's great for a tech trade.
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(February 24, 2016 at 3:59 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote:
(February 21, 2016 at 1:16 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: much nicer people like Mansa Musa.

Gotta love good auld Mansa, he's great for a tech trade.

It's like I said. He's a nice person. Though he did manage to crash the economies of several cities, with his immense wealth and generosity (to this day he is still seen as the richest human to have ever lived).

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