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An Intro: I might be deconverting
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RE: An Intro: I might be deconverting
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#12
RE: An Intro: I might be deconverting
Welcome.  Zeitgeist is pretty lousy scholarship mixed up with ample portions of conspiracy nuttery.

Try this for starters.

http://www.yorku.ca/dcarveth/false_testament



Quote:In the last quarter century or so, archaeologists have seen one settled assumption after another concerning who the ancient Israelites were and where they came from proved false. Rather than a band of invaders who fought their way into the Holy Land, the Israelites are now thought to have been an 'indigenous culture that developed west of the Jordan River around 1200 B.C. Abraham, Isaac, and the other patriarchs appear to have been spliced together out of various pieces of local lore. The Davidic Empire, which archaeologists once thought as incontrovertible as the Roman, is now seen as an invention of Jerusalem-based priests in the seventh and eighth centuries B.C. who were eager to burnish their national history. The religion we call Judaism does not reach well back into the second millennium B.C. but appears to be, at most, a product of the mid-first.
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#13
RE: An Intro: I might be deconverting
Welcome

Word of advice: you might want to fact check Zeitgeist. While eye-opening, it's not exactly full of the facts.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#14
RE: An Intro: I might be deconverting
Welcome aboard. I deconverted back in November. I'm also the son of a pastor so my experience mirrors yours in many ways.

Nothing to know about atheism. It just means you lack believe in a God. Smile

Once you stop believing in a God, you're as atheist as you'll ever be. It's up to you where you go from there.
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#15
RE: An Intro: I might be deconverting
Thanks everyone for the welcomes.

(March 10, 2016 at 9:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Welcome.  Zeitgeist is pretty lousy scholarship mixed up with ample portions of conspiracy nuttery.

Try this for starters.

http://www.yorku.ca/dcarveth/false_testament

Yeah, I started questioning Zeitgeist pretty quick, but I still find it fascinating, maybe in a human sense. I've always kind of liked reading about conspiracy theories. No matter which side I believe, that aspect of humanity fascinates me and always has. I even staged my own conspiracy for a school project once (just to show how it could be done.)

Thanks for the link!
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#16
RE: An Intro: I might be deconverting
(March 10, 2016 at 9:39 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Welcome

Word of advice: you might want to fact check Zeitgeist. While eye-opening, it's not exactly full of the facts.

That's right Jayjay!   (I nearly said vajayjay just then! Oh dear!   Hehe)

Zeitgeist is not 100% fact as SC said.
If you want solid facts, you'll need to read the bible.
It's 100% fact, because it says so right there in the bible!

PS, don't listen to Val, she's more dangerous than I can ever be!
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#17
RE: An Intro: I might be deconverting
Welcome, Jay Smile
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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#18
RE: An Intro: I might be deconverting
Welcome! I'd say you're more likely to be an atheist than not.
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#19
RE: An Intro: I might be deconverting
Welcome, it's good that you are so strong at heart. Don't worry too much about atheism, it's nothing more than a label which saves you the trouble of explaining your position on god claims. And it isn't something which you have to choose to accept, it comes naturally as you know more and more about our reality, so keep learning and enjoying the short life we have, that's all there is to it Smile
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RE: An Intro: I might be deconverting
(March 10, 2016 at 10:25 pm)ignoramus Wrote:
(March 10, 2016 at 9:39 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Welcome

Word of advice: you might want to fact check Zeitgeist. While eye-opening, it's not exactly full of the facts.

That's right Jayjay!   (I nearly said vajayjay just then! Oh dear!   Hehe)

Zeitgeist is not 100% fact as SC said.
If you want solid facts, you'll need to read the bible.
It's 100% fact, because it says so right there in the bible!

PS, don't listen to Val, she's more dangerous than I can ever be!
(She can hurt you in ways you never thought possible) ... Shy

But, its rumored that that costs extra!
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