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There is no argument for the existence of "God"
#21
RE: There is no argument for the existence of "God"
(March 14, 2016 at 5:49 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Most, the vast majority, of the believers have never had a conception/thought that there needs to be an argument for existence. It just is, no questions asked. They are happy in their bliss, with their status quo. Why rock the boat? Just as you're told and all will be fine.

Yup.  Thinking critically is difficult, and religions are engineered to make questions aimed at them difficult emotionally for the person asking.  There's a ton of social pressure in play designed to keep people in the program, whether they want to stay or not.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#22
RE: There is no argument for the existence of "God"
(March 14, 2016 at 5:51 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(March 14, 2016 at 5:38 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: ...so?

So you agree that perhaps you think too highly of your arguments? That they are not as obvious as you think? From what you guys write in this forum, you would think that you are just waiting for the last 8 Christians to give in to your wisdom.

I'm a Brit and around here Christianity is dying.
Churches are shutting and being turned into other things or being knocked down. For example, where I was christened is now a pub.

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#23
RE: There is no argument for the existence of "God"
(March 14, 2016 at 5:51 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(March 14, 2016 at 5:38 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: ...so?

So you agree that perhaps you think too highly of your arguments? That they are not as obvious as you think? From what you guys write in this forum, you would think that you are just waiting for the last 8 Christians to give in to your wisdom.

How on earth did you come to the conclusion that I think that?  Or that I care whether or not my thought process is obvious to others?

Newsflash - I'm not religious.  My 'team' is humanity on the whole.  While I think theists are delusional, I really only care when they try to make others believe in their bullshit, or attempt to enact legislation or perform other actions that harm society because they think the viewpoint of ancient peasants is somehow relevant in the here and now.  Otherwise, I could really give a shit if someone's imaginary friend gets them wet or whatever.

I've said it many times on here: most of the important people in my life are theists.  I don't care that they believe.  So long as they don't try to convert me, or use their belief to justify being heinous, I'm fine with them.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#24
RE: There is no argument for the existence of "God"
(March 14, 2016 at 5:17 pm)SteveII Wrote: Yet approximately 90% of the world believes in a god. 31% are Christians. The number of Christians grows each year. If the projected total will reach 3 billion by 2050, there is approximately 1 new Christian every 1.22 seconds for the next 34 years. Proportions expected to be roughly the same. 13% were convinced atheists in 2012. Only 11% in 2015.

People are not convinced with your arguments and/or have sufficient reasons for believing in god in general or being a Christian specifically. Before you whine about appealing to numbers, I am pointing out that perhaps you think too highly of your arguments that you think are so obvious when a ridiculous majority hold a different view--even after 150 years since Origin of the Species.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

I read the link and came to a different conclusion. I now have to question either your abilities to read or think.

This says you're wrong.

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/ameri...landscape/
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#25
RE: There is no argument for the existence of "God"
(March 14, 2016 at 6:13 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(March 14, 2016 at 5:17 pm)SteveII Wrote: Yet approximately 90% of the world believes in a god. 31% are Christians. The number of Christians grows each year. If the projected total will reach 3 billion by 2050, there is approximately 1 new Christian every 1.22 seconds for the next 34 years. Proportions expected to be roughly the same. 13% were convinced atheists in 2012. Only 11% in 2015.

People are not convinced with your arguments and/or have sufficient reasons for believing in god in general or being a Christian specifically. Before you whine about appealing to numbers, I am pointing out that perhaps you think too highly of your arguments that you think are so obvious when a ridiculous majority hold a different view--even after 150 years since Origin of the Species.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

I read the link and came to a different conclusion. I now have to question either your abilities to read or think.

This says you're wrong.

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/ameri...landscape/

I read that article several times. Reduction is due to losses in Catholics and mainline protestant churches. Evangelicals stayed the same. Try this one for a global perspective: 

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/04/02/relig...2010-2050/
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#26
RE: There is no argument for the existence of "God"
Seriously, you should be a lot more worried about Islam than us. Go. Go! Onward, Christian soldier! Meanwhile, we'll enjoy each other's company while laughing at how stupid it all is.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#27
RE: There is no argument for the existence of "God"
(March 14, 2016 at 5:17 pm)SteveII Wrote: Yet approximately 90% of the world believes in a god.

No one stated that 90% was smart.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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#28
RE: There is no argument for the existence of "God"
(March 14, 2016 at 6:48 pm)Kitan Wrote:
(March 14, 2016 at 5:17 pm)SteveII Wrote: Yet approximately 90% of the world believes in a god.

No one stated that 90% was smart.

If 90% of the world believed in leprechauns, that wouldn't make leprechauns real.

'Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to change.' - Mark Twain

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#29
RE: There is no argument for the existence of "God"
(March 14, 2016 at 6:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 14, 2016 at 6:48 pm)Kitan Wrote: No one stated that 90% was smart.

If 90% of the world believed in leprechauns, that wouldn't make leprechauns real.  

'Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to change.' - Mark Twain

Boru

I'm am pointing out that despite quite a bit of time (150 years since Darwin), it does not seem your arguments are sufficient to even slow the growth of religion.
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#30
RE: There is no argument for the existence of "God"
(March 14, 2016 at 7:14 pm)SteveII Wrote: I'm am pointing out that despite quite a bit of time (150 years since Darwin), it does not seem your arguments are sufficient to even slow the growth of religion.

Religion defeats itself. That is how it has always worked.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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