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The origin of biology
#31
RE: The origin of biology
supernatural (or metaphysical, if you want) simply means a concept that exists outside the physical world.
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#32
The origin of biology
(March 17, 2016 at 8:54 pm)truth_seeker Wrote: Whether abiogensis is far beyond speculation or near beyond speculation doesn't change the fact that its a speculation. Strongly wanting it to be a fact, is another story Smile
Did you see the word god anywhere in this post?

You're right; it's good to know the difference between near and far.

http://youtu.be/f9QsoTZPCjE
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#33
RE: The origin of biology
I'm still really looking for a peer reviewed replicated experiment that was able to recreate abiogenensis in vitro.
If somebody can provide that to support the claim that abiogenensis is a fact, I will be very thankful and will retract all my statements.
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#34
The origin of biology
(March 17, 2016 at 9:47 pm)truth_seeker Wrote: supernatural (or metaphysical, if you want) simply means a concept that exists outside the physical world.

So...yes you are positing God? Or no...you are positing some other supernatural force that you do not qualify as God? To be clear, what I am saying to you is: please come to your point.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#35
The origin of biology
(March 17, 2016 at 9:51 pm)truth_seeker Wrote: I'm still really looking for a peer reviewed replicated experiment that was able to recreate abiogenensis in vitro.
If somebody can provide that to support the claim that abiogenensis is a fact, I will be very thankful and will retract all my statements.

Hmmm...I don't believe anyone actually made that claim. Curious.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#36
RE: The origin of biology
(March 17, 2016 at 9:47 pm)truth_seeker Wrote: supernatural (or metaphysical, if you want) simply means a concept that exists outside the physical world.

Yes. 

We are all pretty familiar with the standard definition of "supernatural".

What I'm asking, is for some examples that are not a god.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#37
RE: The origin of biology
(March 17, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(March 17, 2016 at 9:47 pm)truth_seeker Wrote: supernatural (or metaphysical, if you want) simply means a concept that exists outside the physical world.

Yes. 

We are all pretty familiar with the standard definition of "supernatural".

What I'm asking, is for some examples that are not a god.

mathematics. logic.
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#38
RE: The origin of biology
I'm beginning to disbelieve your user name.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#39
The origin of biology
(March 17, 2016 at 9:58 pm)truth_seeker Wrote:
(March 17, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Yes. 

We are all pretty familiar with the standard definition of "supernatural".

What I'm asking, is for some examples that are not a god.

mathematics. logic.

So...are you suggesting that math and logic created life from non-life? This is getting good! *grabs popcorn*
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#40
RE: The origin of biology
(March 17, 2016 at 9:58 pm)truth_seeker Wrote:
(March 17, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Yes. 

We are all pretty familiar with the standard definition of "supernatural".

What I'm asking, is for some examples that are not a god.

mathematics. logic.



Are claiming that mathematics and logic are supernatural?

Please explain...

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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