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A lesson well learned from Noah.....
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RE: A lesson well learned from Noah.....
(April 9, 2016 at 1:37 am)Kitan Wrote: Theists do, indeed, tend to miss this very point in relation to their supposedly infallible religion.

They miss every point.  Even if there were a god, it is definitely not that megalomaniac in the bible or any other 'scripture'.
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A lesson well learned from Noah.....
(April 9, 2016 at 10:56 am)Minimalist Wrote:
(April 9, 2016 at 9:37 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Come on now min...haven't you ever heard of a "rough draft" before?   [emoji57]

But then you don't pronounce it "good."  You classify it version 1.0

I imagine Microsoft programmers looking at Vista and saying "Lo! This Is A Piece Of Shit. Let Us Make An Upgrade."


Lol, fucking Vista...

God said it was "good." He didn't say it was GREAT!

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RE: A lesson well learned from Noah.....
(April 9, 2016 at 10:56 am)Minimalist Wrote:
(April 9, 2016 at 9:37 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Come on now min...haven't you ever heard of a "rough draft" before?   [emoji57]

But then you don't pronounce it "good."  You classify it version 1.0

I imagine Microsoft programmers looking at Vista and saying "Lo! This Is A Piece Of Shit.  Let Us Make An Upgrade."

All of those revisions and upgrades made Gates tens of billions of dollars.  Genius at work.
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#14
RE: A lesson well learned from Noah.....
Planned obsolescence.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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#15
RE: A lesson well learned from Noah.....
You guys just don't get it.

The stories in the bible aren't random, they're trying to tell you something. In case you didn't know, the WHOLE bible is about Jesus Christ, and the flood is no exception.

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.  - Jesus Christ (John 5:39)

So let's see how the flood story relates to Jesus.

And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. - 1 John 5:8

First thing you must realize is that the natural types the spiritual.

For example:

When a baby is born first the water breaks, then some bleeding, then the baby's first breath (spirit).

In order to enter the kingdom of God, one must become a new creation (reborn).
Quote:John 3
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
(side note: Jesus didn't include the blood in the above scripture because, that would require his death, obviously that hadn't happened yet)

For a person to be reborn, he must be baptized (water) have his sins remitted (through the blood of Jesus Christ) and then he receives the holy spirit (represented by fire, e.g. the fire that fell on the people at Pentecost when the received the holy spirit)

Finally, how does the flood factor in?

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. - Revelation 21

The earth must be reborn also. That means is must also be born in the same manner.

The flood was it's baptism, then Jesus spilled his blood in it, cleansing it, then will come the fire.

Quote:Malachi 4
4 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Quote:2 Peter 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Therefore the flood was the first stage in earth's rebirth.
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Wow. Concentrated Bible vomit.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#17
RE: A lesson well learned from Noah.....
Quote:You guys just don't get it.

Hugster, you need professional help....and really serious medication.

You're fucking crazy boy.
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RE: A lesson well learned from Noah.....
(April 9, 2016 at 1:35 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.


Gen. 1

Why didn't this "omniscient" god know that he had fucked it all up?  For that matter, why did he fuck it all up.

Some god.

Interesting point. By biblical (i.e. false) timescales, isn't the flood around a thousand years or so after the creation? If so, doesn't that mean god had fucked up the whole giving-humanity-free-will-so-they-can-worship-me-if-they-choose thing so badly that he had to effectively do a reboot on humanity after only a thousand years?

Doesn't sound like a perfect creator to me.

Sounds more like an irresponsible dog owner who decides to let his puppy off the leash for the first time right next to a 6 lane freeway.
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RE: A lesson well learned from Noah.....
(April 9, 2016 at 2:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: You guys just don't get it.

The stories in the bible aren't random, they're trying to tell you something. In case you didn't know, the WHOLE bible is about Jesus Christ, and the flood is no exception.

...[insert random inferences here ...]

Therefore the flood was the first stage in earth's rebirth.

One of the many logical mistakes you are making here is to assume that you can make a correct inference on the basis of superficial verbal similarities.
Another is that the inferences you have drawn are the only possible valid ones.
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RE: A lesson well learned from Noah.....
(April 9, 2016 at 2:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: You guys just don't get it.


We get it.

You believe ancient mythology, borrowed from even earlier myths, as if they really happened. 

Sad but true.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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