im stuck help

[choas69]

i'm so stuck ... help

i was thinking about universe recently and thought that there might be a god i'm not sure though i can not deny or prove either. but those holy books which are bible and qura'n they are like a really hateful, sexist , homophobic books . how can we know if they are man-made or not ? how did the holy books guessed all those scientific facts before human being did ? did they copy the older nations science (greek - maya)? or god gave them some of his knowledge ? i'm really confused and lost between fake proofs and real ones

it was so old i mean there was no technology like nowadays . how did they find out 
find out that there are 11 planets.
"And it is We who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it."
(The Qur'an, 51:47) that earth expands
and that mountains prevent earthquake
seems like there is no response for that.

and if mohamad stole these info from ancients , myths say that he couldnt read or write so

this is exactly how i lost my faith in islam, if you keep digging you will find many flaws in islam. for instance we reached a world where a man is equal for a women and yet in islam women arent equals to men and they have the right to have four wives and that was the MAN mentality at that time 1400 years ago which led me to conclude that religion is man made. for the scientific facts i cant really explain how too, however its no proof that god gave us this information because no one saw an angel giving out the information in quran. only mohamed saw it which is suspicious.

[Alex K]

@choas,

from what I've seen, there is no convincing unusual scientific prediction in that book which would suggest it isn't mad-made.

[Goosebump]

I think we are miss-using "scientific fact" here. The surgeon guy on this forum could explain way better than I can. A guess, that can be interpreted as "true" because of modern science isn't proof they got a scientific conclusion way back when. Of course they didn't they didn't have science back then. 

I think Aoi Magi said it best a couple of posts ago: 

All religious scripts claim to have scientific facts which are later discovered, but the this is if there truly were scientific facts we wouldn't have had the need to rediscover them in the first place.

Bottom line there is ZERO science in scripture, just what apologists bend into "precognition" nonsense.

[robvalue]

Welcome aboard chaos

You're very welcome to make a thread in the introduction section to tell us a bit more about yourself, if you would like to!

[GUBU]

sorry didn't mean earth , it was meant the universe "big bang theory"
they assume they have guessed it before science

So then, who is we? Are there multiple gods in the Qur'an?

Well seeing as Mo cribbed his lines from the torah, those probably refer to genesis 3, where it was let slip that the Canaanite pantheon, not yhwh, created the universe. So mo has included baal, moloch, asherah &c. as gods in his holy book.

[Love333]

i'm so stuck ... help

i was thinking about universe recently and thought that there might be a god i'm not sure though i can not deny or prove either. but those holy books which are bible and qura'n they are like a really hateful, sexist , homophobic books . how can we know if they are man-made or not ? how did the holy books guessed all those scientific facts before human being did ? did they copy the older nations science (greek - maya)? or god gave them some of his knowledge ? i'm really confused and lost between fake proofs and real ones

it was so old i mean there was no technology like nowadays . how did they find out 
find out that there are 11 planets.
"And it is We who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it."
(The Qur'an, 51:47) that earth expands
and that mountains prevent earthquake
seems like there is no response for that.

and if mohamad stole these info from ancients , myths say that he couldnt read or write so

Those books have many errors as they have passed through the years but they also have many treasures and striking similarities

Quran tells you to love and forgive and so does the Bible. They both tell you to look for the truth and not to murder. Do you understand how profound those ideas are? They both say there is 1 God. So similar but people would rather look at the differences that do not promote growth, life, nor justice.

Akhenaten brought people together thousands of years ago through his religion. He also did not kill, did not go to war, nor punish people for their beliefs. Instead he brought people together to believe in 1 God. He told the people that love was the way. The statues of him showed him not as a 20 ft tall muscular pharaoh of power but as a human. It will occur again soon. The earth will flood and all will be renewed. We must love one another and bring each other together and expose the truth for all to see.