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RE: Home sleep aids?
April 19, 2016 at 10:55 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 10:49 pm)Losty Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 10:44 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Also - seeing a sleep pathologist might help.
I know what you mean about your doctor refusing to prescribe. I have chronic pain and can't get a pain Rx to save my life. Fucking DEA has all the docs scared.
Than pain shit can get rough but I think my pain management doc likes me better than your doctor because I do take a lot more pain meds than most people. I also could use about double the amount that I take if I wanted to actually be pain free.
I haven't been able to get a pain Rx since January of 2012. I envy you.
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RE: Home sleep aids?
April 19, 2016 at 10:57 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 10:55 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 10:49 pm)Losty Wrote: Than pain shit can get rough but I think my pain management doc likes me better than your doctor because I do take a lot more pain meds than most people. I also could use about double the amount that I take if I wanted to actually be pain free.
I haven't been able to get a pain Rx since January of 2012. I envy you.
It's all new for me. Everyone tells me it won't last. Which is pretty fucking terrifying considering the pain only seems to get worse.
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RE: Home sleep aids?
April 19, 2016 at 11:05 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Losty Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 10:55 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I haven't been able to get a pain Rx since January of 2012. I envy you.
It's all new for me. Everyone tells me it won't last. Which is pretty fucking terrifying considering the pain only seems to get worse.
Yeah, it is.
I don't know if it's so much the pain getting worse, or tolerance of pain going down. But yeah, I'm with you on that.
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RE: Home sleep aids?
April 19, 2016 at 11:59 pm
Benadryl and dramamine have the same active ingredient. Check price per mg and get which ever is cheaper.
Either is very safe, even at high dosages, and just 2 or 3 dramamine would knock me out. In my days before 12 Steppers, that was the safest and least side effecty thing I took. And note, regardless of what else I was abusing, the dramamine always put me to sleep.
That naughty naughty kiddie day care in Council Bluffs IA several years ago was using the same thing to knock out the kiddlings as soon as their parents dropped them off. Made it so much easier for the staff if the kids just slept all day !!! Pills wore off to no effect about the time the parents came back for them. If the kids hadn't been bouncing off the walls all night, the day care would have never been busted.
I'll admit to calming down one of my parents a few times that way. Then I asked the Dr. nicely for a script for xanax (not for me, silly!) and took care of that problem with anxiety once and for all. And seriously, I don't think the xanax was half as good . . . .
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RE: Home sleep aids?
April 20, 2016 at 12:05 am
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Sorry to hear you can't sleep  It's a problem I've struggled with too, though not to the same awful degree you are suffering.
My advice would be to wind down before bed time. For an hour or two before you're due to turn in, don't do any stimulating activity, like using electronic devices. (OK that all came out wrong...  )
You know what I mean, you dirty bastards! iPads, TVs, phones, computers, etc. Put it all away and let your brain detach. Just sit and relax, if possible.
I hope you can find something that helps  So sorry to hear you suffer with so many health problems, it's not fair on such a lovely person
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April 20, 2016 at 12:07 am
You're so sweet Rob
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RE: Home sleep aids?
April 20, 2016 at 12:10 am
(April 19, 2016 at 11:59 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Benadryl and dramamine have the same active ingredient. Check price per mg and get which ever is cheaper.
Either is very safe, even at high dosages, and just 2 or 3 dramamine would knock me out. In my days before 12 Steppers, that was the safest and least side effecty thing I took. And note, regardless of what else I was abusing, the dramamine always put me to sleep.
Yep. Benadryl, even just one, was just the thing back when I was using cocaine daily. (Kids, dont do that.)
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April 20, 2016 at 12:14 am
Thank you
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RE: Home sleep aids?
April 20, 2016 at 12:19 am
(April 19, 2016 at 11:05 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Losty Wrote: It's all new for me. Everyone tells me it won't last. Which is pretty fucking terrifying considering the pain only seems to get worse.
Yeah, it is.
I don't know if it's so much the pain getting worse, or tolerance of pain going down. But yeah, I'm with you on that.
There's a lot of research out there that says it's the pain pills being a disastrously poor long term pain management tool.
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2089371
Patients develop a tolerance and need more and more of an incredibly addictive substance, and if they ever come off, most patients report an increase in base level pain. Losty, I'd imagine your sleep issues are a direct result of these pain pills, I'd talk to your doctor.
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RE: Home sleep aids?
April 20, 2016 at 12:22 am
(April 20, 2016 at 12:19 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 11:05 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Yeah, it is.
I don't know if it's so much the pain getting worse, or tolerance of pain going down. But yeah, I'm with you on that.
There's a lot of research out there that says it's the pain pills being a disastrously poor long term pain management tool.
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2089371
Patients develop a tolerance and need more and more of an incredibly addictive substance, and if they ever come off, most patients report an increase in base level pain. Losty, I'd imagine your sleep issues are a direct result of these pain pills, I'd talk to your doctor.
I was speaking more to my experience with opiate free pain management, but yeah there's that.
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