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RE: Knowledge and belief in God
April 27, 2016 at 4:57 am
1) The concept of god isn't innate.
2) I don't have a good enough knowledge of fundamental physics to reply to this one but it's a fine tuning argument which I've seen people like Neil Degrass Tyson deal with before.
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RE: Knowledge and belief in God
April 27, 2016 at 5:51 am
(This post was last modified: April 27, 2016 at 5:52 am by robvalue.)
How to prove god using science against itself:
1) Find some scientific theory that sounds like it might support your position. Accept it is true, even though you don't understand it.
2) Use this theory to try and disprove another theory, which you also don't understand, that sounds like it doesn't support your position. Misrepresent both theories as much as you like.
3) Having "dealt with" the scientific explanation, insert your own unsupported magical load of garbage into the hole you think you've made.
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RE: Knowledge and belief in God
April 27, 2016 at 8:51 am
If God is innate in human consciousness, why did it take thousands of years of human existence for monotheism to arise?
Besides, even if you could prove that God was innate in our consciousness(which you can't), it would prove nothing more than human beings are hardwired to assign agency to the world around us. The ubiquity of a belief says nothing about its veracity.
This is just another smoke and mirror attempt to distract people from the fact that theists are no closer to proving god's existence than they were 6,000 years ago.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Knowledge and belief in God
April 27, 2016 at 9:03 am
(This post was last modified: April 27, 2016 at 9:06 am by robvalue.)
Also, "Mr Bland" the deistic God has no relation to characters in popular story books. Mr Bland is irrelevant until we actually know something about him.
You think we wouldn't notice you going *cough* Quran verse *cough* Allah at the end?
Why not go *cough* pasta cookery book *cough* FSM?
You don't believe in Allah because of any of this nonsense. Even if he was real, he can fuck off. I don't negotiate with terrorists.
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RE: Knowledge and belief in God
April 27, 2016 at 9:45 am
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(April 27, 2016 at 5:51 am)robvalue Wrote: How to prove god using science against itself:
1) Find some scientific theory that sounds like it might support your position. Accept it is true, even though you don't understand it.
2) Use this theory to try and disprove another theory, which you also don't understand, that sounds like it doesn't support your position. Misrepresent both theories as much as you like.
3) Having "dealt with" the scientific explanation, insert your own unsupported magical load of garbage into the hole you think you've made.
4) Using emoticons in a passive-aggressive and mocking way because 
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RE: Knowledge and belief in God
April 27, 2016 at 10:13 am
As usual, SMBC has a rather pertinent take on "Knowledge vs. God":
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RE: Knowledge and belief in God
April 27, 2016 at 11:35 am
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(April 26, 2016 at 11:50 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (April 26, 2016 at 11:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And what is his evidence for such? Let's remember that Kant died in 1804 when "doctors" still adhered to the miasma theory of disease.
Sometime older medical techniques are correct.
I'm about to start studying phrenology.
Retrophrenology is more profitable.
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At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Knowledge and belief in God
April 27, 2016 at 12:49 pm
(April 26, 2016 at 11:50 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (April 26, 2016 at 11:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And what is his evidence for such? Let's remember that Kant died in 1804 when "doctors" still adhered to the miasma theory of disease.
Sometime older medical techniques are correct.
I'm about to start studying phrenology. I am a practitioner of reverse phrenology.
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RE: Knowledge and belief in God
April 27, 2016 at 12:55 pm
Quote:Retrophrenology
Is that anything like rectophrenology....where jesus freaks walk around with their heads up their asses?
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RE: Knowledge and belief in God
April 27, 2016 at 1:30 pm
(April 27, 2016 at 12:49 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I am a practitioner of reverse phrenology.
You want to be smarter, I hit you on the head to create the right bumps.
Damn, if only I'd thought of saying something witty like that.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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