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30th July 2010, 17:59
(This post was last modified: 30th July 2010 18:00 by yuriythebest.)
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Christian->Budhist->Atheist
my brief "religious history" and how I ended up becoming an atheist, since there seems to be some contention about how people get "converted" to atheism I hope someone will find my story useful or insightful in some way.
I was born in Europe, Ukraine. My mother is a christian and my father is very keen on religion- indeed seemingly all of it - he seems to search for "the truth" by studying texts as variegated as the bible, the bhagavad gita, kuran, budhist texts, etc and seems to draw inspiration from all of em. Indeed, from a young age I simply categorized myself as a christian, knew some bible stories, etc but luckily my family, as are most in europe, are not of the overly religious type and we didn't go to church except maybe for funerals or special occasions. I had the great fortune in living abroad during most of my childhood, and got to study and be friends with children of various faiths, be it muslim, hindu or otherwise, and so I had a great respect for differing viewpoints. My general viewpoint for most of my life was of tolerance and that "all religions are a road that leads to god/heaven/etc". As I grew older and began to compare budhism and the bible I realized that Buddhism was actually way more "reasonable" since there was no great big and angry, capricious God, and that (according to budhism) we are just here because "of ignorance" and there is no great reason to go through this crap and you should just improve yourself and be a moral person and stuff. However I still hadn't done too much research into any religion - as in I haven't actually read the bible, haven't read books of other faiths (books ABOUT those faiths don't count), so after a while I had to decide what it is I actually was - so I decided to investigate, and decide once and for all which faith was best/the truest - Christianity, Buddhism, or maybe even hinduism. I searched the web, watched many a youtube video, searched for evidence of reincarnation and things like that but the more I searched the more dissatisfied I became. I realized that "you can't simply pick and choose which parts of religions you like and combine them into your own special blend" - even though this seems obvious to me now at the time it was quite revolutionary to me. I came across some atheist youtube videos on youtube, of people such as the amazing atheist and thunderf00t- at first I simply enjoyed their videos because of their humor but the more I listened to more I somehow began to agree with what they were saying. Then I came across Richard Dawkins - I don't remember whether he was mentioned in some video or if I simple found him through a search, but wow, his book "the god delusion", if I can indeed trust my memory, was what finally broke the camels back. I listened to the audiobook version since his british accent is so awesome and he narrated it himself - to all those that think "he is just for existing atheists" you are wrong, for his book had an amazing impact on me. Indeed, the moment when I truly became an atheist was when I was taking a shower and contemplating theism, and decided to take this brave leap and simply "imagine/pretend for 10 seconds that there was no god or afterlife" - I tried it only after those 10 seconds I somehow didn't want to go back, for everything seemed way more "natural" this way. However, even now, a year or so after my deconversion I still enjoy listening to shows like "the atheist experience" simply to get rid of that lingering fear/suspicion "what if I'm wrong?" (yes I know Pascals wager), the problem is becoming comfortable with it 100% on an emotional level also and I think I'm already there, but I still like to build up my self-defense against theism so if someone ever tries to indoctrinate me into some faith I'll be able to resist. Oh, I've also told my mother I'm an atheist- she was like "oh? well, it'll pass" - I didn't push the argument further as this seems quite good compared to the many horror stories I hear- then again I'm in europe. Cheers y'all! |
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31st July 2010, 00:52
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RE: Christian->Budhist->Atheist
Awesome story.
Welcome to the thinking side of the debate
Everything in faith is covered by the non verifiable clause
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10th August 2010, 04:11
(This post was last modified: 10th August 2010 04:13 by RAD.)
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RE: Christian->Budhist->Atheist
Can Christians respond to the faulty logic used to de-convert, or is that a big no-no here? I don't want the true believers in Lord Self to riot.
Their faith is known to be fragile. |
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10th August 2010, 04:22
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RE: Christian->Budhist->Atheist
(10th August 2010 04:11)RAD Wrote: Can Christians respond to the faulty logic used to de-convert, or is that a big no-no here? I don't want the true believers in Lord Self to riot. Anyone can respond to any logic, faulty or otherwise. Christians are a favourite though as they are so quaint. Did you want to respond to something dear? Please, go ahead and be my guest. If you don't want your beliefs to be ridiculed then you shouldn't have such ridiculous beliefs!
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10th August 2010, 10:53
(This post was last modified: 10th August 2010 10:57 by KichigaiNeko.)
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RE: Christian->Budhist->Atheist
(10th August 2010 04:11)RAD Wrote: Can Christians respond to the faulty logic used to de-convert, or is that a big no-no here? I don't want the true believers in Lord Self to riot. Respond how you like RAD ...just make it well thought out and inteligent....should be easy for you?? Welcome to the forum Yuri!! Top story.... I am hoping you will meet some interesting views here and so further coalesce your own ...sorry my Ukrainian is very bad so I will not insult you...... Just where in the Ukraine are you?? got some pics of your countryside / town where you live??? Beautiful part of the world In My Humble Opinion. In praise of Wine!...Water = Poop, Wine = Health. Therefore, it's better to drink wine and talk stupid, Than to drink water and be full of shit....
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27th August 2010, 17:30
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RE: Christian->Budhist->Atheist
I became a atheist 3 months ago!
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27th August 2010, 19:01
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RE: Christian->Budhist->Atheist
Congratulations. The sooner you get away from people like Rad the better off you are.
Quote:It is often argued that religion is valuable because it makes men good, but even if this were true it would not be a proof that religion is true. That would be an extension of pragmatism beyond endurance. Santa Claus makes children good in precisely the same way, and yet no one would argue seriously that the fact proves his existence. The defense of religion is full of such logical imbecilities. - H. L. Mencken |
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