When are we not ourselves?

[Whateverist]

Kusa, you seem to have so much disappointment about the details of your/our own life cycle.  From what perspective exactly is it that you judge the details of our anatomy/physiology/consciousness?  What entitles you to have an opinion about the circumstances under which existence is warranted?

[KUSA]

I think the sense of self is an abstract, emergent property of the human brain.

Ok, what does that have to do with anything?

"Me" is not defined by cellular composition, in other words. "Me" is amalgam of admittedly imperfect memories ad relationships.

The "me" of now is not the "me" of yesteryear.

The OP is essentially a recast 747-in-a-junkyard point.

Call it what you want. Call it Abrahams Axe.

[KUSA]

Kusa, you seem to have so much disappointment about the details of your/our own life cycle.  From what perspective exactly is it that you judge the details of our anatomy/physiology/consciousness?  

My own perspective.

What entitles you to have an opinion about the circumstances under which existence is warranted?

What entitles you to question it? (Rhetorical)

We all have opinions bro.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I think the sense of self is an abstract, emergent property of the human brain.

Ok, what does that have to do with anything?

Uh, the question posed in the thread title? Ring a bell?

"Me" is not defined by cellular composition, in other words. "Me" is amalgam of admittedly imperfect memories ad relationships.

The "me" of now is not the "me" of yesteryear.

Ya think?!

The OP is essentially a recast 747-in-a-junkyard point.

Call it what you want. Call it Abrahams Axe.

You <> point.

[Whateverist]

Kusa, you seem to have so much disappointment about the details of your/our own life cycle.  From what perspective exactly is it that you judge the details of our anatomy/physiology/consciousness?  

My own perspective.

What entitles you to have an opinion about the circumstances under which existence is warranted?

What entitles you to question it? (Rhetorical)

We all have opinions bro.

I just think you're talking like someone who could be suicidal.  Hopefully I'm wrong.  But it always seems to me that people who hurt themselves cut themselves no slack.  I see you doing that.

[The Grand Nudger]

Go paint a landscape, or get laid.  Fuck, knit a sweater or something KUSA.  All of this business about rotting meat is a depressive fixation.

[ignoramus]

Our universe has been rotting away via entropy from the moment it was conceived.
Amongst the rot will mushrooms grow.

No biggie.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Source?

There is a lot of Google reading you can do but here is one article.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story...d=11893583
The body replaces 98% of the atoms each year.

Using radiation detectors, the researchers watched the atoms move all over the body. They found that the new atoms replaced old ones and ended up in all tissues of the human body.

So the furniture is rearranged. Does that mean you've moved to another home?

[Losty]

I didn't read the whole thread so just ignore me if I make no sense, but...what do cells and cell replacement have to do with self? When someone is referring to their body they say "my body". Self is almost always used to refer to something completely abstract. Your "self" is who you are not what you are.

[Spirian]

They say we have every cell in our body replaced every 7 years. Are we the same person then? It's like the ship of Theseus. Replace every component and it's not the same ship.

Since we are not the same person, the old person died and we are simply a copy. Why should we even fear death? We die every day one cell at a time. Every aspect of you today will be dead in a few years and replaced with a copy.

What are your thoughts on this?

I am renewed in my flesh every moment, why should I fail to believe that my mind is not the same? What I believe today is dynamic, not unlike the universe in which I exist. When I become certain, I am certainly doomed, even as I speak, I betray my former self that existed a moment ago.