The Pathway Machine

[Raymond]

When Daystar had posted about 350 messages here he knew, from experience of posting on other Atheist message boards that he had only a limited time here before people would get tired of him not agreeing with him. Atheist like to promote themselves as open minded and tolerant because they don't like to think of themselves as the same ilk as Xians. Actually they are not. They are worse.

Anyway, Daystar started his "400!" Campaign. When someone, I think it was EVF, asked him what was so special about his upcoming 400th post, what was coming then? Daystar answere "The Machine!"

The Machine is The Pathway machine - a message board Daystar was working on of his own. A place where he could post messages responding to some of the places he had been banned from. Like this one.

Maybe you are asking yourself what I have to do with this. Well, I came around about the time the 400 stuff started. My name is Raymond Sheen. Ray mond sheen. Machine.

I am Daystar.

And I probably won't be coming back here in a month. I'm tired of being kicked around. You all are welcome at The Pathway Machine if you really want open minded conversation regarding Atheism.

Of course, I fully realize that you don't.

P.S. Adrian and the Mods; I know you will ban me and delete this post like you did my last post, Blind Watchmaker - Chapter 1, which I posted on the Atheist Blogger forum before I got banned from there as well, but I have already sent this post to every active member on the board.

Have a nice day.

[Tiberius]

You certainly won't be coming back after a month, I've just permanently banned you. Creating a second account, posing as a different person, and then maliciously spamming the PM system is a direct attack against the server and the forums.

If you are going to claim "prophecy" on this one like you already have, then I would like to point out that you were the only person who had any affect on your downfall. You could have claimed the same thing at 50 posts and simply been the arrogant asshole you were from post 350. As a prediction, you actually overshot since you were actually banned at post 401 (which I deleted since it was random spam and wasn't worth discussion).

Finally a word on freedom of speech. In no way is this related. I respect freedom of speech, I believe every forum should have a basis in it, but freedom of speech does not mean you can say everything anytime on a forum. It means you can say everything you want on the occasion that fits the act of it being said. In other words, you cannot just randomly spew the same arguments again and again when they have been refuted earlier, nor can you simply reject arguments being made by people just because they fly in the face of your beliefs. You must respond to them in a decent manner, or you must ignore them and walk away from the discussion.

If you want an example of freedom of speech being abused, Daystar is an excellent example, and it is for that reason that you are banned.

[StewartP]

The assehole pm'd me. I haven't been active at the forums lately, but it looks like I was spared all of Daystar's wankery.

And he can kiss my ass before I check out his forum

[LukeMC]

Ramond is Daystar? What a twist!

[Edwardo Piet]

I heard he pmed everyone? He pmed me too. Well he said all active members I believe.

[Ace Otana]

Yeah I got it too. I knew once I signed on and spotted the name that something was off.
Has he broken every single rule? Well almost all of them.

[Edwardo Piet]

Yeah. At least he didn't spam huge amounts of porn and ads over the forum! lol.

[Rob]

I didn't receive a PM and I sort of feel left out now

You must respond to them in a decent manner, or you must ignore them and walk away from the discussion.

Isn't that what happened in the water canopy thread?

[Purple Rabbit]

Finally a word on freedom of speech. In no way is this related. I respect freedom of speech, I believe every forum should have a basis in it, but freedom of speech does not mean you can say everything anytime on a forum. It means you can say everything you want on the occasion that fits the act of it being said. In other words, you cannot just randomly spew the same arguments again and again when they have been refuted earlier, nor can you simply reject arguments being made by people just because they fly in the face of your beliefs. You must respond to them in a decent manner, or you must ignore them and walk away from the discussion.

We keep disagreeing on the free speech matter Adrian (which is OK by me). Can the refutation of arguments be validated objectively? Do some posting on a theist forum and you'll know. And decency is a rather soft criterion. All those left here must be really decent girls and boys then? Have we responded decent each time? By whose definition?

The Raymond trick is another thing. That impostering can be validated separate from the content of his speech. And that imo is indeed a reason to ban.

[leo-rcc]

I didn't receive a PM and I sort of feel left out now

Me too.

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