Fruit trees and necessity

[Ignorant]

Thanks! Don't worry, there's no hook in this little morsel.

[The Grand Nudger]

If there is no water, there are no trees in the first place.


No.  It's availability and amount, not it's presence, correspond to increases and decreases in average yield...both in the upper and lower ends.  Too much - lower yields.  Too little, lower yields.  Plenty but none of it the suitable ph or salinity, lower yields.  

Floods and droughts and poisoned tables are all expected to effect yields negatively, because all correspond with crop failures in our model.

Great! It is nice to know that you are so knowledgeable of fruit trees. I'll remember that for future reference. So you're a qualified "yes". Thanks!

Did you read the response you just quoted.....? You get a yes out of that? What -don't- you get a yes out of, lol?

I said, to the first...that we're talking nonsense...and to the second an immediate and demonstrable no.

[Ignorant]

Great! It is nice to know that you are so knowledgeable of fruit trees. I'll remember that for future reference. So you're a qualified "yes". Thanks!

Did you read the response you just quoted.....?  You get a yes out of that?  What -don't- you get a yes out of, lol?

Yes I did. The amount, the availability, the pH, and the salinity of water (i.e. the way-in-which-water-is-present) are some of the different conditions (but not all of them) which partially determine (in some way known only partially by scientists) the amount and quality of the fruit yield from fruit trees. If there is no water at all, not only will a fruit tree make no fruit, but a fruit tree won't "be" at all. Got it. That's a yes.

[The Grand Nudger]

You're really stretching your credibility with me at this point.  

The presence of water in a flooded field, or a poisoned table - does not correspond with increases in yield, as they might, for example, under drought conditions.  You have been imprecise and your misapprehension is the price paid.  Presence, availability, and amount are not interchangeable - it is the latter two which correspond with the outcome -you- referenced, attempting to claim them now, after having been corrected... for your horrid question, is shameless posturing, lol.

It's not a yes, it's a reminder that you can expect to extract precisely what you put in to any means of inference.  GIGO. Rephrase the question to more accurately describe the correlations we find and then use to draw inferences regarding cause in our determinist model.... and I will, invariably and inexorably, be able to agree. Proceed as is and I already know we aren't talking about the same thing.

[Ignorant]

You're really stretching your credibility with me at this point.  

The presence of water in a flooded field, or a poisoned table - does not correspond with increases in yield, as they might, for example, under drought conditions.  You have been imprecise and your misapprehension is the price paid.  Presence, availability, and amount are not interchangeable - it is the latter two which correspond with the outcome -you- referenced, attempting to claim them now, after having been corrected... for your horrid question, is shameless posturing, lol.

It's not a yes, it's a reminder that you can expect to extract precisely what you put in to any means of inference.  GIGO.  Rephrase the question to more accurately describe the correlations we find and then use to draw inferences regarding cause in our determinist model.... and I will, invariably and inexorably, be able to agree.  Proceed as is and I already know we aren't talking about the same thing.

Great. So it's a no. Thanks!

[The Grand Nudger]

NP bud.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Would you say that it is evident (or at least, demonstrable) that certain conditions determine that fruit trees make fruit or not?

Of course it is evident. I can create conditions that will cause any tree to not produce fruit. Similarly, I can create conditions that will produce fruit.

Boru

[Aoi Magi]

Here is a single question posed in two different formulas:

     1) Do fruit trees make fruit according to certain conditions or not?

     2) Do certain conditions determine that fruit trees make fruit or not?

I am not so sure both are taking about the exact same thing. As per my understanding of the questions, the first one is asking if certain conditions can effect the production of fruit, that is more like effecting the attributes of the fruit. The second is asking whether the trees can produce anything at all depending on the conditions.

Anyway, take me as 'yes' for both questions.



@OP: if you are just doing a survey with yes/no answers, you should consider adding a poll.

[ignoramus]

Everybody please note that if the fruit tree is a fig tree and has not born any fruit, obviously, you have sinned and not repented. At that stage all you can do is to cut the motherfucker down in a fit of rage and just go buy some figs at the market. Yum yum...

[brewer]

Great! Thanks, ignoramus!

Is it weird that I feel bad for your avatar rabbit? You can do it little buddy, keep chewing!

That's a rabbit? I thought it was some down under wombat thingy.