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How thick is Matt Slick?
#31
RE: How thick is Matt Slick?
(June 11, 2016 at 9:36 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote:
(June 11, 2016 at 9:35 pm)SteveII Wrote: When God existed timelessly, he also existed changelessly put with omnipotent potential.

How do you know that?

Inductive reasoning. Natural theology. Logically, I am not sure it can be any other way.
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#32
RE: How thick is Matt Slick?
(June 11, 2016 at 9:35 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(June 11, 2016 at 8:13 pm)Irrational Wrote: But outside of time, how are all these mental qualities (will, knowledge, etc.) enacted in a way that distinguishes a timeless god from a mindless but also timeless entity?

When God existed timelessly, he also existed changelessly put with omnipotent potential.

You didn't answer the question.
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#33
RE: How thick is Matt Slick?
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#34
RE: How thick is Matt Slick?
(June 11, 2016 at 9:40 pm)Irrational Wrote:
(June 11, 2016 at 9:35 pm)SteveII Wrote: When God existed timelessly, he also existed changelessly put with omnipotent potential.

You didn't answer the question.

When you say "mindless" what do you mean?
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#35
RE: How thick is Matt Slick?
(June 11, 2016 at 9:39 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(June 11, 2016 at 9:36 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: How do you know that?

Inductive reasoning. Natural theology. Logically, I am not sure it can be any other way.

That is a poetic way of saying you make it up as you go along  Dodgy
Religion is the top shelf of the supernatural supermarket ... Madog
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#36
RE: How thick is Matt Slick?
(June 11, 2016 at 10:48 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(June 11, 2016 at 9:40 pm)Irrational Wrote: You didn't answer the question.

When you say "mindless" what do you mean?

That's what I'm trying to get you to answer. What does it mean for God to have a mind outside of time? What makes it different from a "supercomputer" (that possesses all information necessary to solve all problems and run all required tasks) outside of time?
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#37
RE: How thick is Matt Slick?
(June 12, 2016 at 12:27 am)Irrational Wrote:
(June 11, 2016 at 10:48 pm)SteveII Wrote: When you say "mindless" what do you mean?

That's what I'm trying to get you to answer. What does it mean for God to have a mind outside of time? What makes it different from a "supercomputer" (that possesses all information necessary to solve all problems and run all required tasks) outside of time?

You are equating inaction with mindless. In a timeless state, God would have to be changeless. That is not to say that while in that state he looses all of his other attributes. I think having omnipotent potential to do anything is a pretty big way to distinguish between God and a supercomputer.
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#38
RE: How thick is Matt Slick?
(June 12, 2016 at 8:36 am)SteveII Wrote:
(June 12, 2016 at 12:27 am)Irrational Wrote: That's what I'm trying to get you to answer. What does it mean for God to have a mind outside of time? What makes it different from a "supercomputer" (that possesses all information necessary to solve all problems and run all required tasks) outside of time?

You are equating inaction with mindless. In a timeless state, God would have to be changeless. That is not to say that while in that state he looses all of his other attributes. I think having omnipotent potential to do anything is a pretty big way to distinguish between God and a supercomputer.

So a timeless machine/computer with infinite information necessary to solve all solvable problems and run all tasks is not omniscient/omnipotent while a timeless God is, how? Or are you saying such a computer would be omniscient and omnipotent?
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#39
RE: How thick is Matt Slick?
Do you ever watch Ali G indahouse? Once he has asked Buzz Aldrin when man will walk on the sun. When Buzz told him that you can't because its too hot, he replied, well why not during its winter? Your questions sometimes reminds me of Ali G, except you're serious
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#40
RE: How thick is Matt Slick?
So a timeless, changeless entity thinks and has the potential to perform action? This is his inductive reasoning?

Christian first, philosopher second. Start with a theology and forcibly drive the conclusion that way.
Jesus is like Pinocchio.  He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
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