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Lucifer
#31
RE: Lucifer
(July 8, 2016 at 1:42 am)Godschild Wrote:
(July 7, 2016 at 3:28 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Brightest of angels sold out God. Are you certain that you wont?

 Hey you come up real short on reasoning, Lucifer sold himself out, God's still the One with everything and will always be. I'm certain I want betray God as Lucifer did, I've seen what happens to those who think they can defeat God.

GC

Well according to your fiction book God created Lucifer as the shining one .... his creation was a fuck up .... he then created man and he was a fuck up .... see a pattern here?
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#32
RE: Lucifer
(July 8, 2016 at 6:21 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(July 8, 2016 at 6:18 am)robvalue Wrote: Is it just me who sees a face on the green creature's butt?

Anybody have a mint ? Perhaps some Binaca?

I believe the green guy is aan apologist. Talks alot out of his ass.
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#33
RE: Lucifer
(July 7, 2016 at 2:54 pm)Thena323 Wrote:
(July 7, 2016 at 2:31 pm)Drich Wrote: Lucifer's sin was to covet what God was/had. In essence he wanted to be the shot caller. He wanted to be the alpha and omega, not a servant.

Seems as though that should make one wonder what gave Mr. Lucifer reason to believe that he could.
Become the shot caller, Alpha and Omega that is.

It certainly crossed my mind as a believer. Didn't care to think on it too hard, though.

So... working at your job you never once thought this place would shut down without me? Or I could do this myself, and put this place out of business?

Have you ever looked at someone who you thought was a little less than you/your station in life and wonder why they seemed to be doing better? Ever want something not yours?

Coveting God/what God has was Lucifer's core sin.
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#34
RE: Lucifer
(July 7, 2016 at 3:28 pm)purplepurpose Wrote:
(July 7, 2016 at 2:31 pm)Drich Wrote: Lucifer's sin was to covet what God was/had. In essence he wanted to be the shot caller. He wanted to be the alpha and omega, not a servant.

Brightest of angels sold out God. Are you certain that you wont?

That's what this life is all about then isn't it?

Taken out of the 'lime light' of God's eye (or so it would seem to us as we are not aware of his Glory/presence) and allowed to live as we see fit... The question is do we then continue to worship God, when most do not see the benfit or do we sell Him out for our sins of choice?
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#35
RE: Lucifer
(July 7, 2016 at 3:48 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: One deity is covetous and the other jealous . . .

...but one is not a deity. The one coveting is a servant.
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#36
RE: Lucifer
(July 7, 2016 at 4:17 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Correct me if im wrong, but I see that many of the users here are infected with "holy zombie virus" and seems like they cannot completly crush their doubts about the existance of God. And now they are forced to preform "mental gymnastics" as other user here named it.

consider yourself corrected..

In that the only 'mental gymnastics' performed are those who are desperate to hold on to the ideas of God they have been able to refute.
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#37
RE: Lucifer
(July 8, 2016 at 4:54 am)robvalue Wrote: Why doesn't god silence Satan's powers? Can't he or won't he?

Why would He??

Satan still serves per Job and the interaction he had with Christ.

The book of revelation tells us of the point where he ceases to serve, and God does put an end to his abilities.
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#38
RE: Lucifer
Why would he indeed. Other Christians claim their god is good, you're quite rare happily worshipping an evil deity.
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#39
RE: Lucifer
(July 8, 2016 at 2:15 pm)madog Wrote:
(July 8, 2016 at 1:42 am)Godschild Wrote:  Hey you come up real short on reasoning, Lucifer sold himself out, God's still the One with everything and will always be. I'm certain I want betray God as Lucifer did, I've seen what happens to those who think they can defeat God.

GC

Well according to your fiction book God created Lucifer as the shining one .... his creation was a fuck up .... he then created man and he was a fuck up .... see a pattern here?

  What I see is the disobedience from creatures who have the free will to do so, just like you. Except you are so lazy that you would rather God made you a robot.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#40
RE: Lucifer
Disobeying who exactly? People like you, who presume to speak for God?

Why do you disobey what Muslims tell you to do?
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