Men wear Hijab in Iran in support of womem

[Edwardo Piet]

Human instinct should not be fought.
Hijab was, and always will be a dress to ease up men's abilities to control their natural instinct.

The problem was always in the hormones that our bodies produce at the sight of certain places in female body. What is opressing in asking women to hold responssibility for their bodies, and help their fellow men in society, in fighting what the hormones do to them?

The only people who get special treatment are the weak, the handicapped and children. Women deserve no special treatment; different but not special.
Instead, Islam treats women for who they are (grown up humans with responsibility), and deals with them in a way only grown ups would receive: ordering them to step up and take responsibility because -obviously other parts in the society -men- get high on their bodies.

Yes; men get high on women. Look at porn addiction stats.
No; what feminists are doing is that they are treating women as if they were some children who are having a wicked tantrum.

Understand that the more you undress, the more you make men's bodies to produce more drugs, making the male body so high and unfocused, and to get over the effect, some very evil men rape, good men jerk the shit out of their cocks and turn to porn instead; others turn gay.

It's becoming old. Nothing is more humiliating than treating an adult like a child.
And that's what feminism is all about.

As for opressing women in the East, it has nothing to do with Hijab and everything to do with the Bedwin societies that lock women inside tents. You can track their bedwin nasty habits over thousands of years.

Wow... just wow!

Was it bad? I only read the part about jerking off because that part grabbed my attention. Just like I grab my.... nevermind

[ReptilianPeon]

When you ask somebody like Hamza Tzortis though, yes I still like to cite puke, he tells his women not say the Hijab is about modesty. He tells them to say it's about "bring closer to Allah " or something stupid like that.

And by the way Atlas, last I checked, there weren't any Bedowins living in Iran, Pakistan or Afghanistan. Could it be the issue is more to do with what Fiqh people use than culture? You know, Tunisian woman have it pretty good I'd say, compared to these GCC countries and both have large Bedowin populations, yes?

And men need to be taught not to rape. Women are suffering because of the way Allah designed men. it's men who should be punished m - not women.

[Excited Penguin]

The implication that men would feel the need to rape if they didn't have sex or masturbate for some time, is more than a little bothersome. We aren't animals. Certain types of psychopaths may, no matter what excuses there may be, feel the need to rape someone, that doesn't mean it's the norm. Rape disgusts me if it's not in a wholly sexual fantasy/roleplay context.

Didn't read Atlas's whole reply, nor do I intend to, his posts weird me out. I'm only responding to a certain part of his post quoted by Evie earlier. I did inspect the post and read the whole paragraph containing that phrase, though, so I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track here.

[Edwardo Piet]

Woah yeah if that's what he said in his post that's fucked up.

[ReptilianPeon]

Just to add, Pakistan and the GCC countries have really high porn addiction. Sexual repression makes people want porn more. Pretty sure you can easily l find search statistics on porn. Pakistan is right up there. And they love homosexual porn the Quran is doing nothing to help these people. They need to be sexuality liberated because right now they are oppressed.

Don't just blame the Bedouin. That's, how you say, a red herring. We were taking about Iran anyway Come on, say it with me: "There are no Bedouins in Iran or Pakistan."

[WinterHold]

Wow... just wow!

Sucks, don't it?

Alsdair ham

Okay that compliment is the weirdest compliment I've ever had 

oops, wasn't intended at all :/

Was it bad? I only read the part about jerking off because that part grabbed my attention. Just like I grab my.... nevermind 

I love how "neverminders" seek attention via "telling everyboy to not minde through posting public comments on public forums with the stamp: "nevermind" on it xD on forums where minders dwell".
It's like spanking somebody then whistle *nevermind, nevermind*  
Or "Kate" who shows her cleevage, and on the way out she fights with mommy: "Uhhh;;;mooooooooooooooooooooom ! It's like, ya know, IDK,my boobie is so so so so so so...ummmm muuuuum!! xoxoxo". But Kate tells the boys to nevermind her tits bouncing out !! aaaah the irony !
 hahaha I love your posts :p

RP

Bedwin is a mere example. Afghani society shares lots with Bedwins for example: tribal (google tribal history of Afghanistan), they are all backward (On real industrial and economical bases; not on sexual media bases; civility is not measured with erotica), they are all violent.

Note, that the bold "they" points at societies and cultures; NOT PEOPLE.


You never saw real Muslims.

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[ukatheist]

Human instinct should not be fought.
Hijab was, and always will be a dress to ease up men's abilities to control their natural instinct.

...

What is opressing in asking women to hold responssibility for their bodies, and help their fellow men in society, in fighting what the hormones do to them?

...

Instead, Islam treats women for who they are (grown up humans with responsibility), and deals with them in a way only grown ups would receive: ordering them to step up and take responsibility because -obviously other parts in the society -men- get high on their bodies.

...

Understand that the more you undress, the more you make men's bodies to produce more drugs, making the male body so high and unfocused, and to get over the effect, some very evil men rape, good men jerk the shit out of their cocks and turn to porn instead; others turn gay.

So, women are ordered to wear hijab because they must take responsibility for men being unable to control their sexual urges. Men apparently don't need to take responsibility for this themselves, and if a woman 'tempts' a man by choosing not to wear hijab then a man might rape her and it will be her own fault for not taking responsibility for his urges.

And seeing a woman not wearing hijab can send a man gay?

Ffs.

[RozKek]

The implication that men would feel the need to rape if they didn't have sex or masturbate for some time, is more than a little bothersome. We aren't animals. Certain types of psychopaths may, no matter what excuses there may be, feel the need to rape someone, that doesn't mean it's the norm. Rape disgusts me if it's not in a wholly sexual fantasy/roleplay context.

Didn't read Atlas's whole reply, nor do I intend to, his posts weird me out. I'm only responding to a certain part of his post quoted by Evie earlier. I did inspect the post and read the whole paragraph containing that phrase, though, so I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track here.

I get the idea that he's talking from his own perspective, if women would not cover themselves them he'd apparently get the urge to rape them, turning gay (which isn't possible and sounds idiotic as fuck) or he'd apparently have to jerk off. Sounds like he has shitty self control.

I live in Sweden, there are very attractive, uncovered women here and never do I have and never will I have the urge to rape them, and afaik I haven't turned gay yet. And jerking off doesn't have much to do with seeing uncovered women. There are many people whom discovered it because it felt good not because they saw Lola the bunny as a child. It's just seeing uncovered women or men is just attractive and a bonus to it.

Also, the more I think about the more I see how unfair the "perfect" Allah is. Women don't decide to be women and have much less rights and priviliges than men. How is that fair or just?? And Allah designed men this way, couldn't he have done it better?

[ReptilianPeon]

"You never saw real Muslims."

That's because they don't exist. Everyone thinks they are the real deal. Everyone is accusing everyone else of being fake. How about we admit Quran 65:4 is a problematic verse? It's not culture.

Iran was very liberal before the revolution. Then the Ulama came to power. Iran is now an Islamic Republic. And people are fighting against it because they hate living under Sharia. Sharia doesn't work. It's stupid.

[Brian37]

You don't have to have a written law to have social pressure dictate behaviors. There is no law forcing people in the west to attend church either, but in tons of locations to not do so is to risk being a social outcast regardless of what the law says.

Are you serious right now? How is this about the West? What the fuck?

Grow up. Humans worldwide are not a separate species. Just because we live in a more open society does not mean club think and tribalism does not exist. We have a right wing here . Leaving religions like LDS or Amish and even Scientology can be met with severe scorn. And I have been listening to atheists for 15 years and their stories of how families negatively react to coming out as well as knowing how my younger sister got treated by our family when she came out.  The only difference between the west and the east is 200 plus years of a secular leash on religion. Social pressure still exists even in the open west.