Hello?

[Excited Penguin]

Liberalism is also an ideology that changes the way you perceive reality.

There is no such thing as non-religious belief in God. It is implicitly religious at all times, it's what the word religious means.

Welcome, I already like you. I mean it.

I'm twenty but act like I'm twelve most of the time.

I am not a liberal or libertarian, I share many views with the right as well as the left. What I meant by non-religious belief in god was a belief in god without the ideology to go around it. I was an agnostic to some extent. I probably could have worded that last bit better.

Still, all ideologies change the way you perceive reality. And not all ideologies are bad. You'll never find someone who associates completely with a certain ideology, there are always going to be exceptions. It's just easier to say you agree with an ideology if you mostly do. And I think you'll agree ideologies can have good parts as well as bad parts, that doesn't mean we should group the good with the bad and call it a day.

[purplepurpose]

State of non existance or being slave of Gods will. I dont know which is worse.

Yeah one of the main questions that turned me away from Christianity was: "If sin is a result of free will then how is there free will in heaven yet no sin?"

There is free will. Lucifer resigned.

[jason97931]

I am not a liberal or libertarian, I share many views with the right as well as the left. What I meant by non-religious belief in god was a belief in god without the ideology to go around it. I was an agnostic to some extent. I probably could have worded that last bit better.

Still, all ideologies change the way you perceive reality. And not all ideologies are bad. You'll never find someone who associates completely with a certain ideology, there are always going to be exceptions. It's just easier to say you agree with an ideology if you mostly do. And I think you'll agree ideologies can have good parts as well as bad parts, that doesn't mean we should group the good with the bad and call it a day.

Good point, I just find it hard to associate with any ideology because its just asking people to stereotype you and strawman any argument you have. If i were to identify as liberal most people would think I supported clinton over trump, stuff like that. Though I do think all ideologies are bad because as you said, they change the way you perceive reality. You should try avoiding any sort of change in the way you perceive reality because your perception is your reality, and if your reality is different than, i guess, reality? That means you have an inherent bias towards some things that can be very difficult to change.

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Yeah one of the main questions that turned me away from Christianity was: "If sin is a result of free will then how is there free will in heaven yet no sin?"

There is free will. Lucifer resigned.

I require a copy of the letter of resignation and a COA from Jesis

[Excited Penguin]

I hope I wasn't being rude by pointing out some things I disagree with in your posts('cause we're not allowed to be rude here). If I was, I apologize.

[Excited Penguin]

Still, all ideologies change the way you perceive reality. And not all ideologies are bad. You'll never find someone who associates completely with a certain ideology, there are always going to be exceptions. It's just easier to say you agree with an ideology if you mostly do. And I think you'll agree ideologies can have good parts as well as bad parts, that doesn't mean we should group the good with the bad and call it a day.

Good point, I just find it hard to associate with any ideology because its just asking people to stereotype you and strawman any argument you have. If i were to identify as liberal most people would think I supported clinton over trump, stuff like that. Though I do think all ideologies are bad because as you said, they change the way you perceive reality. You should try avoiding any sort of change in the way you perceive reality because your perception is your reality, and if your reality is different than, i guess, reality? That means you have an inherent bias towards some things that can be very difficult to change.

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Yes, excellent point when you put it like that. I completely agree. But still, it can be subjective. I can call myself a liberal and not care that other people will stereotype me because of it and not let liberalism affect the way I perceive reality in a way that conflicts with other, more reliable data.

[Minimalist]

Welcome.

[jason97931]

I hope I wasn't being rude by pointing out some things I disagree with in your posts('cause we're not allowed to be rude here). If I was, I apologize.

Absolutely not, I love any sort of differing opinions.

[Excited Penguin]

I hope I wasn't being rude by pointing out some things I disagree with in your posts('cause we're not allowed to be rude here). If I was, I apologize.

Absolutely not, I love any sort of differing opinions.

Right, and just to clarify my earlier statement, we're not allowed to be rude only in the introductions section of the forum. Elsewhere, we can be rude, to a certain extent, it's just that it's frowned upon, of course.

You might have noticed all this yourself, but I'm just trying to help in case you didn't.

[RozKek]

Hey. We had similiar roads, welcome.

[robvalue]

Welcome to the forum, thanks for sharing your journey with us