Is contemporary atheism sufficient to sustain a civilisation?

[Anomalocaris]

What unifying social principles does atheism offer?

Reduced inclination towards confusing wishful thinking with reality?

[Arkilogue]

So I'm gathering atheism has nothing positive (proscriptive) to offer the continuity of civilization. But it does have a negative contribution in the attempt to defused religious influences that would destroy civilization. Like a rudder using drag to steer a ship.

More like actually -having- a rudder..as opposed to praying to fucking "jesus" to turn the ship.  

Jesus is Magnetic North.

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What unifying social principles does atheism offer?

Reduced inclination towards confusing wishful thinking with reality?

So it has a retarding effect?

[The Valkyrie]

Yes.

As long as we can achieve the extinction of the religious by the end of next year.

Working on that.

No. Just want an excuse to commit genocide

Kill or be killed?

[abaris]

Reduced inclination towards confusing wishful thinking with reality?

Which still opens the doors for all kinds of bullshit. If it were even true, that is. There are all sorts of wishful thinking approaches for atheists as well. Just not in the god avenue. But that's the only one being closed. That's why atheism in itself doesn't offer anything at all.

[chimp3]

Atheism is too broad a term. You could be a negative , hateful , mysogonistic old bastard and be an atheist. If you want to argue that the cognitive tools promoted by many atheists - skeptism , rational discourse , a rejection of the slave-master mentality , free minds and bodies- then we are on a track to sustainability.
The fact that religion has been a central part of civilization so far , or that China may not be Paradise , does not prove that we can not sustain ourselves without gods. Nor does China provide evidence that we cannot build a better secular world.
Atheism now is a process of humanity growing up and throwing away childish things.

[Anomalocaris]

Reduced inclination towards confusing wishful thinking with reality?

So it has a retarding effect?

Wish think much?

[Anomalocaris]

Reduced inclination towards confusing wishful thinking with reality?

Which still opens the doors for all kinds of bullshit. If it were even true, that is. There are all sorts of wishful thinking approaches for atheists as well. Just not in the god avenue. But that's the only one being closed. That's why atheism in itself doesn't offer anything at all.

The difference is that between still being normally susceptible to contracting the debilitating disease, and being always encouraged to, bullied, forced, cajoled into, actively seeking to contract the debilitating disease.

[abaris]

The difference is that between still being normally susceptible to contracting debilitating the disease, and being always encouraged to, bullied, forced, cajoled into, actively seeking to contract debilitating disease.

Well, to see what I mean, look no further than this thread's OP and his post record. Obviously his view of the world, unless he's pulling a very convincing charade. Atheism in itself doesn't resolve anything.

[Anomalocaris]

It provides a better foundation upon which to build good solutions.   I might even argue that looking in the long run, the better solutions could not be built without it. But It does not prevent bad solutions from being built upon itself.

[Arkilogue]

So it has a retarding effect?

Wish think much?

I think you misunderstand me.

Retard as in slow down, offer resistance, hold back.