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What would evidence of a God even look like?
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
(August 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:


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#22
RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
(August 14, 2016 at 9:28 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:
(August 14, 2016 at 9:26 pm)Whateverist Wrote: You mean Evidence?  I was thinking of what it is that actually persuades people.

I mean actual physical evidence of any kind, that scientists could work with.

How could there in a million years...???

Can't get physical evidence beyond the inflationary border, but you can formulate a predictive model that is back by scientific evidence of universal phenomena.

Science evolves based on plausibility and explanatory power.
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#23
RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
(August 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(August 14, 2016 at 5:14 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: My argument goes like this. If there's a God that created the Universe(the Universe being everything in existence) then this God is either a part of the Universe or the Universe itself. It can't be merely a part of it, since it created it, so it must be the Universe itself. But then, there's no use calling it God. You might as well do away with the shady language and call it what it is. Nature, Universe, Cosmos. Whatever your secular preference.

Thoughts?

The dominating aspect of universal existence is space itself, occupied by and extremely small amount of mass found in a regular basic pattern: The Atom.  Even that is mostly space.

"God" could be an extant infinite substance (absolute matter) that moved to make the space of the universe. Which in equal/opposite reaction flung an extremely small amount of itself into motion and form within the universe.

The consciousness of God would be the energetic movement that an extant infinite supports as a vibrational body with no border.

"God in the Highest" remains outside relative space time.

Did not know that.

Huh.  Well if that's right then I suppose evidence for God would be just about everything.  Never thought about it that way before. 


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#24
RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
(August 14, 2016 at 9:35 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Did not know that.

Huh.  Well if that's right then I suppose evidence for God would be just about everything.  Never thought about it that way before. 

And I'm going to try never to do so again.  You know there is some difference between stating your hunch and coming up with some sort of justification or evidence for it.

Everything is "evidence" for God, the big logistics question is why/how? You have to know what you are looking for.
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#25
RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
(August 14, 2016 at 9:13 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: My point is, there couldn't possibly be any evidence for a creating God. And anyone who isn't trying to be obstinate about it would admit it as well.

Sure, god could come down to earth and create a human being out of mud or a rib. If I saw that, I would be convinced.
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
(August 14, 2016 at 9:56 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(August 14, 2016 at 9:13 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: My point is, there couldn't possibly be any evidence for a creating God. And anyone who isn't trying to be obstinate about it would admit it as well.

Sure, god could come down to earth and create a human being out of mud or a rib. If I saw that, I would be convinced.

AS per my reasoning, God wouldn't be anything but the universe itself. So you're basically saying the universe would do something like that?


Not f likely.
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
(August 14, 2016 at 9:31 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:
(August 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:


Welcome to AF!

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#28
RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
(August 14, 2016 at 9:56 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(August 14, 2016 at 9:13 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: My point is, there couldn't possibly be any evidence for a creating God. And anyone who isn't trying to be obstinate about it would admit it as well.

Sure, god could come down to earth and create a human being out of mud or a rib. If I saw that, I would be convinced.
And you trust your eyes to tell you the truth? Can they not be fooled?
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#29
RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
(August 14, 2016 at 9:59 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(August 14, 2016 at 9:56 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Sure, god could come down to earth and create a human being out of mud or a rib. If I saw that, I would be convinced.
And you trust your eyes to tell you the truth?  Can they not be fooled?

I'd probably need some independent confirmation from someone else. Like I said, it's about the same standard of evidence that I have for the existence of deer or lizards or whatever.
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#30
RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
(August 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(August 14, 2016 at 5:14 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: My argument goes like this. If there's a God that created the Universe(the Universe being everything in existence) then this God is either a part of the Universe or the Universe itself. It can't be merely a part of it, since it created it, so it must be the Universe itself. But then, there's no use calling it God. You might as well do away with the shady language and call it what it is. Nature, Universe, Cosmos. Whatever your secular preference.

Thoughts?

The dominating aspect of universal existence is space itself, occupied by and extremely small amount of mass found in a regular basic pattern: The Atom.  Even that is mostly space.

"God" could be an extant infinite substance (absolute matter) that moved to make the space of the universe. Which in equal/opposite reaction flung an extremely small amount of itself into motion and form within the universe.

The consciousness of God would be the energetic movement that an extant infinite supports as a vibrational body with no border.

"God in the Highest" remains outside relative space time.

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