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Poll: Does free will exist?
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No, I'm a hard determinist.
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Yes, I'm a compatibilist.
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Free Will
#21
RE: Free Will
(August 20, 2016 at 11:48 pm)fdesilva Wrote:
(August 20, 2016 at 11:20 pm)Jesster Wrote: Thank you for your baseless assertion that doesn't answer the question anyway.

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I was not answering a question, it was a comment on the lyrics of a song

(August 20, 2016 at 11:30 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: Lol, the universe ain't 4D even though there are other dimensions, just not in this universe. There are only 1D, 2D, and 3Ds in this universe.

1D might possibly be quarks or preons, 2D is the thickness or graphine, and 3D is well...Three D

The universe is expanding (at least we think)

If the universe was 4D you can't flex the shape just because it's expanding without energy.

You can't affect time in a 4D universe, just go through it back and forth (maybe up and down but idk)

If you "imagine" that doesn't make it true.

Yes every current state determines the next but not before. The butterfly effect.

You can't change the universe's shape.
String Theory is mostly a hypothesis and not yet proven but has some evidence to back it up.
4D beings would live through time and see what they want to do, thus what they wanted has happens or will happen.

Get rekt.
spacetime is 4D have a read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime

First of all it's wikipedia, but hey what do I know?

"the "fourth dimension". By combining space and time into a single manifold called Minkowski space in 1905, physicists have significantly simplified a large number of physical theories"

Theories, they are backed up by facts yes it's possible the universe is 4D but there are multiple theories (not hypothesis like creationism) which say otherwise.

Heck there's a theory the universe is 2D, but not a hologram.

The universe could also be a simulation where time goes forward based on actions created by life and chaos.

But for now, the "theory" that the universe is 3D seems to be the most likely.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoretical_physics][/url]

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#22
RE: Free Will
One has never discussed anything enough.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#23
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 12:04 am)ScienceAf Wrote:
(August 20, 2016 at 11:48 pm)fdesilva Wrote: I was not answering a question, it was a comment on the lyrics of a song

spacetime is 4D have a read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime

First of all it's wikipedia, but hey what do I know?

"the "fourth dimension". By combining space and time into a single manifold called Minkowski space in 1905, physicists have significantly simplified a large number of physical theories"

Theories, they are backed up by facts yes it's possible the universe is 4D but there are multiple theories (not hypothesis like creationism) which say otherwise.

Heck there's a theory the universe is 2D, but not a hologram.

The universe could also be a simulation where time goes forward based on actions created by life and chaos.

But for now, the "theory" that the universe is 3D seems to be the most likely.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoretical_physics][/url]

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I am just sharing my foolish thoughts simply for the fun of it. I got you lol so it’s success.
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#24
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 12:32 am)fdesilva Wrote:
(August 21, 2016 at 12:04 am)ScienceAf Wrote: First of all it's wikipedia, but hey what do I know?

"the "fourth dimension". By combining space and time into a single manifold called Minkowski space in 1905, physicists have significantly simplified a large number of physical theories"

Theories, they are backed up by facts yes it's possible the universe is 4D but there are multiple theories (not hypothesis like creationism) which say otherwise.

Heck there's a theory the universe is 2D, but not a hologram.

The universe could also be a simulation where time goes forward based on actions created by life and chaos.

But for now, the "theory" that the universe is 3D seems to be the most likely.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoretical_physics][/url]

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I am just sharing my foolish thoughts simply for the fun of it. I got you lol so it’s success.

Did I just convert you to atheism through simple statments!?!?!??
YASSS!!!

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#25
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 12:04 am)ScienceAf Wrote:
(August 20, 2016 at 11:48 pm)fdesilva Wrote: I was not answering a question, it was a comment on the lyrics of a song

spacetime is 4D have a read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime

First of all it's wikipedia, but hey what do I know?

"the "fourth dimension". By combining space and time into a single manifold called Minkowski space in 1905, physicists have significantly simplified a large number of physical theories"

Theories, they are backed up by facts yes it's possible the universe is 4D but there are multiple theories (not hypothesis like creationism) which say otherwise.

Heck there's a theory the universe is 2D, but not a hologram.

The universe could also be a simulation where time goes forward based on actions created by life and chaos.

But for now, the "theory" that the universe is 3D seems to be the most likely.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoretical_physics][/url]

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Yes the universe is 3d spatial. The next step/dimension is the movement/change of stuff through space and that is "time". If there was space and stuff but nothing moved, there would be no time.

Some things break apart over time, other things gain order over time and that is a 5d process.

It's really quite simple.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#26
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 12:06 am)Maelstrom Wrote: One has never discussed anything enough.

There are so many free will threads and I've discussed it so many times to death I'm trying to resort to defeating my opponents in debate by being extremely inappropriate.
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#27
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 12:50 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: There are so many free will threads and I've discussed it so many times to death I'm trying to resort to defeating my opponents in debate by being extremely inappropriate.

Your inappropriateness toward my obvious wisdom regarding free will merely creates angry sex in the end.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#28
RE: Free Will
From the end into the beginning.
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#29
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 12:46 am)Arkilogue Wrote:
(August 21, 2016 at 12:04 am)ScienceAf Wrote: First of all it's wikipedia, but hey what do I know?

"the "fourth dimension". By combining space and time into a single manifold called Minkowski space in 1905, physicists have significantly simplified a large number of physical theories"

Theories, they are backed up by facts yes it's possible the universe is 4D but there are multiple theories (not hypothesis like creationism) which say otherwise.

Heck there's a theory the universe is 2D, but not a hologram.

The universe could also be a simulation where time goes forward based on actions created by life and chaos.

But for now, the "theory" that the universe is 3D seems to be the most likely.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoretical_physics][/url]

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Yes the universe is 3d spatial.  The next step/dimension is the movement/change of stuff through space and that is "time".  If there was space and stuff but nothing moved, there would be no time.

Some things break apart over time, other things gain order over time and that is a 5d process.

It's really quite simple.

Yeah, 4D is just another movement through time. How can we define going "fowards" in time when we have only observed one form.

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#30
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 12:53 am)ScienceAf Wrote:
(August 21, 2016 at 12:46 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Yes the universe is 3d spatial.  The next step/dimension is the movement/change of stuff through space and that is "time".  If there was space and stuff but nothing moved, there would be no time.

Some things break apart over time, other things gain order over time and that is a 5d process.

It's really quite simple.

Yeah, 4D is just another movement through time. How can we define going "fowards" in time when we have only observed one form.
It's easiest to observe in a tree that is growing outwards in all directions, that is it's singular "forwards" directional motion of growth through time. It does not reverse directions.

Just like the earth does not reverse directions in orbit.

Time has specific trajectory.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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