Foundation of all Axioms the Axioms of Consciousness

[Joods]

Don't know. But this guy's copy paste fest along with him claiming to be catholic, leads me to believe him to be Randy. Randy would never lie about his religious conviction and it would be rather odd that two catholics of his ilk to find their way here. Catholics usually aren't like Randy. They may have their own flaws, but they're usually neither missionaries, preachers or afraid to voice an opinion of their own. Look at CL for reference.

Hi you seem to think I am somebody that's been in this forum before. I have not. If you mean by copy and paste I am copying some stuff I wrote before and pasting that is correct, however if you mean I am copying and pasting what some one else wrote that is incorrect. I guess that is obvious, as you say the world cannot have to many fools like me.

You copy and pasting your own drivel over and over across multiple threads is redundant and by all means should be considered trolling since you've yet to make a sensible post. So if you think you are making any sort of progress here, you are sadly mistaken. Pedde this tired and worn out crap elsewhere, please.

[fdesilva]

If you accept the axioms given, then everything that exist from the accepted classical science point of view exist from instant to instant. What happened a 100th of a second ago does not exist any more. Neither does something that is going to happen in a 100th of a second to the future. Yet if you take U to span time because music is across time then the "I" that is observing it is able traverse time as well as space, that is observe a 4Dimensional segment of space and time. "I" will be able to accomplish this only if it is outside the 4 Dimensions of space and time in a 5th dimension

Or the brain is able to maintain state, have memory of the recent past, and operate on the combined data from the separate moments.  This solves the problem without introducing an unevidenced component.  Occam's razor leans in favor of the memory hypothesis.  That I can remember and form an impression across time is not magic.  No fifth dimension is required.   But we've been here before, in your other thread.

If you agree that in the current instant nothing to the past exist then putting that past into memory does not solve the problem as then what you are saying is that memory, a set of events that are space like separated, are creating or is responsible for the "I" in that instant, which is impossible as nothing can connect simultaneous events

[Whateverist]

Do you have a point?

If you accept the axioms given, then everything that exist from the accepted classical science point of view exist from instant to instant. What happened a 100th of a second ago does not exist any more. Neither does something that is going to happen in a 100th of a second to the future. Yet if you take U to span time because music is across time then the "I" that is observing it is able traverse time as well as space, that is observe a 4Dimensional segment of space and time. "I" will be able to accomplish this only if it is outside the 4 Dimensions of space and time in a 5th dimension

So much trying.

So much failing.

So sad.

[Whateverist]

Or the brain is able to maintain state, have memory of the recent past, and operate on the combined data from the separate moments.  This solves the problem without introducing an unevidenced component.  Occam's razor leans in favor of the memory hypothesis.  That I can remember and form an impression across time is not magic.  No fifth dimension is required.   But we've been here before, in your other thread.

If you agree that in the current instant nothing to the past exist then putting that past into memory does not solve the problem as then what you are saying is that memory, a set of events that are space like separated, are creating or is responsible for the "I" in that instant, which is impossible as nothing can connect simultaneous events

No, really, what are you trying to say?  What is it you are trying so hard to figure out, what problem so desperately needs a solution?  Everything is fine.

[bennyboy]

Axioms of I
1.Ability to observe U
2.Feelings
3.Free will
4.Curiosity and playful behaviour

 lol good luck with this thread

[fdesilva]

If you agree that in the current instant nothing to the past exist then putting that past into memory does not solve the problem as then what you are saying is that memory, a set of events that are space like separated, are creating or is responsible for the "I" in that instant, which is impossible as nothing can connect simultaneous events

No, really, what are you trying to say?  What is it you are trying so hard to figure out, what problem so desperately needs a solution?  Everything is fine.

The problem that so desperately needs a solution is this. How are we able to see simultaneous events? If I look at a tree I see a multitude of events. How can I a single thing see a multitude of events?
Whatever answer you may think is valid, must satisfy the following truths.
1. Any event to the past or the future of the current instant in time does not exist.
2. Two or more events in the current instant cannot be connected.

[Jesster]

How can I a single thing see a multitude of events?

What you are actually seeing is reflected light

[fdesilva]

How can I a single thing see a multitude of events?

What you are actually seeing is reflected light

Yes but the reflected light will create a set of events in your brain.
Events as defined here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime

[Jesster]

What you are actually seeing is reflected light

Yes but the reflected light is a set of events in your brain.
Events as defined here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime

No, the reflected light triggers a set of events in your brain after it meets your eyes.

[Edwardo Piet]

The diarrhea is strong in this one.