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Simulation Theory Documentary
#21
RE: Simulation Theory Documentary
(August 29, 2016 at 6:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It's one of a quirks, I guess.  A double edged sword.  If we hadn't been so projective we may not have been so successful as to be sitting here asking the questions...but since we are, the questions themselves become a bit of a poisoned chalice.

At a certain point, the tree has grown enough, any more and suckers/crossing branches will take away from fruit production.

There is a time of planting, a time of growing, a time of harvest and a time of pruning and burn piles.

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#22
RE: Simulation Theory Documentary
I suppose you guys are right. I mean if its in Scientific American it must be pseudoscience.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...imulation/

Money Quote - "Neil deGrasse Tyson, director of the museum’s Hayden Planetarium, put the odds at 50-50 that our entire existence is a program on someone else’s hard drive. “I think the likelihood may be very high,” he said."

Besides I never said I believed it was true only that I found it interesting.
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#23
RE: Simulation Theory Documentary
Another NDT quote from the article:
Quote:“If you’re finding IT solutions to your problems, maybe it’s just the fad of the moment,” Tyson pointed out. “Kind of like if you’re a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.”

Lisa Randall from the same article:
Quote:Randall admitted she did not quite understand why other scientists were even entertaining the notion that the universe is a simulation. “I actually am very interested in why so many people think it’s an interesting question.” She rated the chances that this idea turns out to be true “effectively zero.”

Not everyone shares the enthusiasm. Right now it's unsubstantiated speculation.
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#24
RE: Simulation Theory Documentary
(August 29, 2016 at 8:50 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I suppose you guys are right. I mean if its in Scientific American it must be pseudoscience.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...imulation/

Money Quote - "Neil deGrasse Tyson, director of the museum’s Hayden Planetarium, put the odds at 50-50 that our entire existence is a program on someone else’s hard drive. “I think the likelihood may be very high,” he said."

Besides I never said I believed it was true only that I found it interesting.

LOL, nutter bingo.  Doubling down on appeals to authority. You dont believe it;s true, but you believe that experiments which have verified it have also falsified materialism?

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RE: Simulation Theory Documentary
(August 29, 2016 at 10:42 am)ChadWooters Wrote:
(August 28, 2016 at 10:22 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: Albeit interesting it is only a hypothesis that has not been tested.

Your comment is similar to saying that evolution has not been tested. If you watch the video you will see how many experiments confirm the simulation hypothesis. It appears to have significant explanatory power and alternative theories, particularly materialism, have been falsified by those same experiments.

And this post neatly illustrates why you have less authority to speak on science than the average five year old child Wooters. First of all the simulation hypothesis has never been tested, mainly because we have no idea how to make it fasifiable. Second it breaks one of the fundamental axioms of all sciences; that there is an observable and objective reality. And finally it has no explanatory power.
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RE: Simulation Theory Documentary
(August 30, 2016 at 2:22 pm)Cato Wrote: Another NDT quote from the article:
Quote:“If you’re finding IT solutions to your problems, maybe it’s just the fad of the moment,” Tyson pointed out. “Kind of like if you’re a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.”

Lisa Randall from the same article:
Quote:Randall admitted she did not quite understand why other scientists were even entertaining the notion that the universe is a simulation. “I actually am very interested in why so many people think it’s an interesting question.” She rated the chances that this idea turns out to be true “effectively zero.”

Not everyone shares the enthusiasm. Right now it's unsubstantiated speculation.

I agree. Part of what makes it interesting is that very respected people are discussing it as a serious possibility. Controversy is good. I was responding to those who wanted to put the hypothesis in the same category as ancient aliens.

Just curious why you would call it unsubstantiated if experimental results conform to what one would expect if the hypothesis were valid?
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