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Love and Fear
#21
RE: Love and Fear
(September 18, 2016 at 10:26 am)bennyboy Wrote:
(September 17, 2016 at 8:07 pm)Losty Wrote: Best movie ever
Name, please

Donnie Darko
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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#22
RE: Love and Fear
(September 18, 2016 at 5:14 am)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:
(September 17, 2016 at 9:25 pm)Losty Wrote: You intentionally talk in fancy gibberish because you think it makes you look deep and philosophical. I think it makes you look like a twat. But hey...we are both entitled to our own opinions.

Having just done a quick browse on some of his posts, I must opine that I find him rather refreshing compared to the usual ilk that populates the board. Eccentric and off the beaten path.

1) my heart breaks because this is now the level of communication

2) oh hai I miss you

3) I never understand anything this guy is saying but I think the twat thing is a bias on my part due to past behaviors. I probably should get over it but it's not easy.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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#23
RE: Love and Fear
(September 17, 2016 at 9:25 pm)Losty Wrote:
(September 17, 2016 at 9:23 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Just because you cannot make sense of it, does not nonsense of it make.

You intentionally talk in fancy gibberish because you think it makes you look deep and philosophical. I think it makes you look like a twat. But hey...we are both entitled to our own opinions.

Not real concerned about our opinion of me. I use the words I feel best convey the idea and since it's one few people ever consider, I use lot's of description....and it's consistent.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#24
RE: Love and Fear
(September 17, 2016 at 8:11 pm)Losty Wrote: @OP I also have a hard time reconciling the mixture of fear and love that comes with Christianity. I do think you might be over simplifying it a bit but yea the whole idea of hell makes no sense.

And no...there are no parents here. True atheists eat their babies straight from the womb.

ew, no, you need to marinate it first.
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#25
RE: Love and Fear
(September 18, 2016 at 4:17 pm)RozKek Wrote:
(September 17, 2016 at 8:11 pm)Losty Wrote: @OP I also have a hard time reconciling the mixture of fear and love that comes with Christianity. I do think you might be over simplifying it a bit but yea the whole idea of hell makes no sense.

And no...there are no parents here. True atheists eat their babies straight from the womb.

ew, no, you need to marinate it first.

It's been marinating for 10 months. What more do you want!?
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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#26
RE: Love and Fear
(September 18, 2016 at 4:27 pm)Losty Wrote:
(September 18, 2016 at 4:17 pm)RozKek Wrote: ew, no, you need to marinate it first.

It's been marinating for 10 months. What more do you want!?

I like mine 11 months and medium, yummy
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#27
RE: Love and Fear
(September 17, 2016 at 7:52 pm)mcolafson Wrote: Greetings,

I have to say that I am interested in Christianity and the Bible. In their philosophical and psychological aspects.

One of this how Love and Fear are woven together.
I don't say that this is not possible. In the USSR people were afraid of Stalin (or rather they were terrified). Yet, when he died (maybe He would be more appropriate ? Smile ), multitudes went on the streets to pay last tribute to the Leader (Father of the Nations, the Teacher, etc), and many were trampled to death (some sources say 2 thousand people were dead)...

Nevertheless, I can understand toothaches or hemorrhages sent by the hypothetical sky-Father.
If you catch a child playing with matches, it may a good idea to spank him. But better is to keep matches of child's reach.
But the idea of Hell...

If you play with matches, you are a naughty boy and I will burn you with cigarettes for eternity?

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or wait, sin means separation from our Heavenly Father. All sin. Ted Bundy's killling of women is a sin. And stealing of your class-mate's eraser when you were in the second grade is Sin, too. You probably forgot about that eraser. And your classmate also forgot it. But for stealing of that eraser, your loving Father is going to send you to a torture chamber for Eternity!

Btw, are there parents here?

There are different levels of sin depending on how serious they are. Stealing classmate's lunch money is what we'd call a venial sin. Killing innocent women, is a grave sin.

Venial sins hurt our relationship with God, but do not separate us from Him, thus not resulting in Hell. 

A grave sin, on the other hand, has the potential to become a mortal sin... which does cut us off from God. 

For a grave sin to be considered a mortal sin, the person who committed the grave sin must have done so with full knowledge and consent of the will. This means the person must be fully aware that what they are doing will cut them off from God, and do it willingly anyway with the intent of being cut off from God. Also, there must be 0 remorse. So if a completely blanked out insane person killed someone, he has committed a grave sin. But since he did not have full knowledge and consent of the will, his grave sin does not go up to the level of being a mortal sin, and thus does not cut him off from God. 

Hell is not a physical place. It is a state of being consciously and willfully separated from God in the other life. Only the person himself can choose to exist in this state of being.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#28
RE: Love and Fear
(September 18, 2016 at 4:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(September 17, 2016 at 7:52 pm)mcolafson Wrote: Greetings,

I have to say that I am interested in Christianity and the Bible. In their philosophical and psychological aspects.

One of this how Love and Fear are woven together.
I don't say that this is not possible. In the USSR people were afraid of Stalin (or rather they were terrified). Yet, when he died (maybe He would be more appropriate ? Smile ), multitudes went on the streets to pay last tribute to the Leader (Father of the Nations, the Teacher, etc), and many were trampled to death (some sources say 2 thousand people were dead)...

Nevertheless, I can understand toothaches or hemorrhages sent by the hypothetical sky-Father.
If you catch a child playing with matches, it may a good idea to spank him. But better is to keep matches of child's reach.
But the idea of Hell...

If you play with matches, you are a naughty boy and I will burn you with cigarettes for eternity?

-----
or wait, sin means separation from our Heavenly Father. All sin. Ted Bundy's killling of women is a sin. And stealing of your class-mate's eraser when you were in the second grade is Sin, too. You probably forgot about that eraser. And your classmate also forgot it. But for stealing of that eraser, your loving Father is going to send you to a torture chamber for Eternity!

Btw, are there parents here?

There are different levels of sin depending on how serious they are. Stealing classmate's lunch money is what we'd call a venial sin. Killing innocent women, is a grave sin.

Venial sins hurt our relationship with God, but do not separate us from Him, thus not resulting in Hell. 

A grave sin, on the other hand, has the potential to become a mortal sin... which does cut us off from God. 

For a grave sin to be considered a mortal sin, the person who committed the grave sin must have done so with full knowledge and consent of the will. This means the person must be fully aware that what they are doing will cut them off from God, and do it willingly anyway with the intent of being cut off from God. Also, there must be 0 remorse. So if a completely blanked out insane person killed someone, he has committed a grave sin. But since he did not have full knowledge and consent of the will, his grave sin does not go up to the level of being a mortal sin, and thus does not cut him off from God. 

Hell is not a physical place. It is a state of being consciously and willfully separated from God in the other life. Only the person himself can choose to exist in this state of being.

Hm, how many criminally insane people surround God?
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