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"You, atheists take Bible quotes out of context"
#21
RE: "You, atheists take Bible quotes out of context"
God Almighty took time out of his busy day running the entire universe to make sure that the stricture regarding menstruating during churchy time being verboten was inerrantly and perfectly recorded in His Holy Bible.

Seems rather cheeky for modern day folks to ignore such a matter He found so important so as to included in the Bible, no ?

Particularly in view of Boru's finding from Matthew above, and no Scripture attributed to Jesus suspending such a restriction.
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#22
RE: "You, atheists take Bible quotes out of context"
(October 2, 2016 at 4:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(October 2, 2016 at 3:03 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: What does that have to do with Christianity?

Because Jesus said one of the reasons he came was to fulfill Mosaic law.  Matthew 5:17-20.

Boru

The purpose of the law is to condemn, if there is no law then there is no condemnation.

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. - John 3:17-18

For those that have accepted Christ there is no condemnation, if there is no condemnation, there is no law.

Galatians 3
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
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#23
RE: "You, atheists take Bible quotes out of context"
(October 2, 2016 at 5:03 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
And does this make a difference?

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For you are all children of God by the faith of Yeshua The Messiah.
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#24
RE: "You, atheists take Bible quotes out of context"
Sorry, Huggy, but I must have missed your point. If (part of) Jesus' purpose is to fulfill Mosaic law - all of Mosaic law, he said as much - then a Christian woman cannot enter a church during her menstrual cycle. I'm not sure what your quote from Galatians has to do with that. Can you be more specific?

Boru
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#25
RE: "You, atheists take Bible quotes out of context"
When apologists use the word "fulfill" what they mean is "make it go away".  Happy to clear that up for you.
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#26
RE: "You, atheists take Bible quotes out of context"
(October 2, 2016 at 6:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Sorry, Huggy, but I must have missed your point.  If (part of) Jesus' purpose is to fulfill Mosaic law - all of Mosaic law, he said as much - then a Christian woman cannot enter a church during her menstrual cycle.  I'm not sure what your quote from Galatians has to do with that.  Can you be more specific?

Boru


Maybe we are overthinking this ??  Menstruating Christian women do not enter churches.  We are assuming some things not in evidence when we note "apparent" Christian women in "apparent" Christian churches.  It's entirely possible the stricture is rigorously observed by Christian women in regards to their churches, and we are mistaking other women in other churches.
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#27
RE: "You, atheists take Bible quotes out of context"
(October 2, 2016 at 9:06 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Kinda tough to fuck up the context when you have verses prohibiting menstruating women from churchy time.

And when's the last time a christer church showed a female pew warmer on the rag the door ??

LOL, I'd love to know how they would check that.  Like...is there just one designated, unlucky choir boy with a red pointer finger standing at the entrance?
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#28
RE: "You, atheists take Bible quotes out of context"
(October 2, 2016 at 8:19 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(October 2, 2016 at 9:06 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Kinda tough to fuck up the context when you have verses prohibiting menstruating women from churchy time.

And when's the last time a christer church showed a female pew warmer on the rag the door ??

LOL, I'd love to know how they would check that.  Like...is there just one designated, unlucky choir boy with a red pointer finger standing at the entrance?
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#29
RE: "You, atheists take Bible quotes out of context"
(October 2, 2016 at 6:35 am)mcolafson Wrote: Christian, "You take this Bible quote out of context. That's why you get different meaning and an absolutely wrong one. And you, atheists always take quotes out of context. That's why you are always wrong. And we are always right because we look at the quotes and passages in context. God's word is infallible. You just have to look in context."

I suppose I should add something to this post, but I am going to a date with a Russian beauty (thanks God there are Russian women!)

All religions pull some sort of version of this, including Jews and Hindu's and Buddhists and Muslims when you tell them you are not buying their story.

It amounts to the same thing, "If you would just blindly swallow my interpretation".

The problem all religions have is that every umbrella label has competing sub sects that do not agree with how to interpret holy writings or how to follow holy people. 

Humans simply don't want to see the reality that morality isn't in old clubs or old books, but in our species evolution. Our species ability to use cruelty or compassion is in us. There were no written religions or boarders 200,000 years ago in the early days of our species. We can see other animals display empathy and compassion for not only their young, but even other species. 

I would say however, the violent people in ANY religion, including Jews and Hindus and Buddhists, and to say there are none is absurd, but just like we complain about Christianity and Islam, that the violent ones in our species are following their tribal writings far more closely than those who are more westernized and have learned to shelf their tribalism.

Our species evolved to be social animals, thus for the most part, we defend that which is local and that which our parents hand down to us.
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#30
RE: "You, atheists take Bible quotes out of context"
Psalm 69:   "I endure scorn for your sake and shame covers my face."

That one is so much fun to take out of context. Or should I say pull out of context?
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