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Is there objective Truth?

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Is there objective Truth?
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RE: Is there objective Truth?
November 3, 2016 at 4:16 pm
(November 3, 2016 at 6:21 am)Sal Wrote: [Image: 1476972000-20161020.png]

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RE: Is there objective Truth?
November 3, 2016 at 4:17 pm
P.S. Compatabilists do that all the time.
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RE: Is there objective Truth?
November 3, 2016 at 10:49 pm
(November 3, 2016 at 3:23 am)theologian Wrote: Truth is both objective and subjective. For, truth is the state of mind being in accordance with reality. Now, reality is objective and mind is subjective. Therefore, truth is just truth and classifying truth into either objective or into subjective doesn't know that truth is the state of mind being in accordance with reality.

That's one theory of truth. There is more than one theory of truth. I'm fond of the coherence theory myself.
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RE: Is there objective Truth?
November 4, 2016 at 7:48 am (This post was last modified: November 4, 2016 at 7:49 am by Edwardo Piet.)
I like the correspondence theory Big Grin

Or in other words... that which is in accordance with reality Big Grin
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RE: Is there objective Truth?
November 6, 2016 at 1:30 am
(November 3, 2016 at 5:16 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:
(November 3, 2016 at 3:23 am)theologian Wrote: Truth is both objective and subjective. For, truth is the state of mind being in accordance with reality. Now, reality is objective and mind is subjective. Therefore, truth is just truth and classifying truth into either objective or into subjective doesn't know that truth is the state of mind being in accordance with reality.

Basic logic, you cannot have something hold the properties of x and not x at the same time. What you are talking about here is reality (objective) and the mind's perception of reality (subjective). The mind plays tricks on us all the time, and we tell untruths as a result without realising them.

I agree on what you are saying regarding logic, however, the absurdity doesn't apply here, for in human person the mind of one is objective for another. Further, in truth, being objective and subjective is in different senses (as what is objective is the thing being known, and the subjective is the knower) and there are no contradiction in case of different senses.
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RE: Is there objective Truth?
November 7, 2016 at 5:39 am
(November 6, 2016 at 1:30 am)theologian Wrote:
(November 3, 2016 at 5:16 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: Basic logic, you cannot have something hold the properties of x and not x at the same time. What you are talking about here is reality (objective) and the mind's perception of reality (subjective). The mind plays tricks on us all the time, and we tell untruths as a result without realising them.

I agree on what you are saying regarding logic, however, the absurdity doesn't apply here, for in human person the mind of one is objective for another. Further, in truth, being objective and subjective is in different senses (as what is objective is the thing being known, and the subjective is the knower) and there are no contradiction in case of different senses.

Wrong on two counts, firstly to your second justification if you're saying that truth is objective to the object and subjective to the thinker you're talking about two different things, fact and opinion and conflating them as both being the truth. Secondly is something is objective in one scenario it is objective in all scenarios, if it weren't then it's following the rules for subjectivity.
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