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God sees - strongest argument for God.....
#11
RE: God sees - strongest argument for God.....
Mystic, that's not even an -argument-.  Where is the "therefore"?  What is the inference? Thre isn;t a single mention of god in 1-5....so it doesn;t even matter if 1-5 are true....-you- failed to include god. It's just an itemized list of batshit claims. If this is the best argument for "god"..... "god" is in a sad, sad state.

I have to ask, why are you even -searching- for an argument. What's wrong with your faith?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#12
RE: God sees - strongest argument for God.....
I think, religions appeal for believers is that they like the idea of "perfect" life, even if its bitter. They like especially that they can possibly even live eternally because they will be fighting the "good fight".

They think, I guess, that if your fighting the "good fight" your automatically right. In sense of morality, some sincere and compassionate believers indeed are in superior position to an average survivalist atheist, because those few theists are driven by fears and duty to make themselves extra caring.

So, its not about proof, its about the question "Does religion make people better persons?".
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#13
God sees - strongest argument for God.....
(October 15, 2016 at 1:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Mystic, that's not even an -argument-.  Where is the "therefore"?  What is the inference? Thre isn;t a single mention of god in 1-5....so it doesn;t even matter if 1-5 are true....-you- failed to include god. It's just an itemized list of batshit claims. If this is the best argument for "god"..... "god" is in a sad, sad state.

I have to ask, why are you even -searching- for an argument. What's wrong with your faith?


Oh, the "therefore, God" conclusion was implied. [emoji57]
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

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#14
RE: God sees - strongest argument for God.....
Arguments are not made by what is -not- said.  If he wan'ts a "therefore god" he has to say it.  Period.  Until such a time it's not an argument at all, let alone an argument for a god. I have a soft spot for our boy M, but not so soft that I'm willing to lower the bar.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: God sees - strongest argument for God.....
(October 15, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Arguments are not made by what is -not- said.  If he wan'ts a "therefore god" he has to say it.  Period.  Until such a time it's not an argument at all, let alone an argument for a god.

I know.  I was being facetious, lol.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#16
RE: God sees - strongest argument for God.....
LOL< I get pretty humorless when I'm trying to take something seriously.  I just wish Mystic would take himself, and his argument, as seriously.  I expect to see some fucking god in an argument for a god.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#17
RE: God sees - strongest argument for God.....
(October 15, 2016 at 1:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Mystic, that's not even an -argument-.  Where is the "therefore"?  What is the inference?  Thre isn;t a single mention of god in 1-5....so it doesn;t even matter if 1-5 are true....-you- failed to include god.  It's just an itemized list of batshit claims.  If this is the best argument for "god"..... "god" is in a sad, sad state.

I have to ask, why are you even -searching- for an argument.  What's wrong with your faith?

Nothing is wrong with his faith. Something is wrong with your definition and usage.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#18
RE: God sees - strongest argument for God.....
Thanks, for nothing, as always Ark.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#19
RE: God sees - strongest argument for God.....
(October 15, 2016 at 2:25 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Thanks, for nothing, as always Ark.

Faith is evidence/experience/gift of God, not self created belief. You are doing it wrong.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#20
God sees - strongest argument for God.....
(October 15, 2016 at 2:22 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(October 15, 2016 at 1:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Mystic, that's not even an -argument-.  Where is the "therefore"?  What is the inference?  Thre isn;t a single mention of god in 1-5....so it doesn;t even matter if 1-5 are true....-you- failed to include god.  It's just an itemized list of batshit claims.  If this is the best argument for "god"..... "god" is in a sad, sad state.

I have to ask, why are you even -searching- for an argument.  What's wrong with your faith?

Nothing is wrong with his faith. Something is wrong with your definition and usage.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.


Arborist is having a hard time seeing the forest through the trees.

OH, SNAP!

[emoji12]
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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