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More about God
#11
RE: More about God
No :massive eyeroll: smiley, so I have to use this one to simulate mental masturbation  Jerkoff
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#12
RE: More about God
Jesster

I will not lie to myself and choose another word to describe it. Seeing things right, is mainly based on using the correct words to describe things. Calling a lion a sheep will never change the fact: a lion is a lion and a sheep is a sheep; calling a peacock a crow will never change the fact -even if the peacock got some black feathers here and there-: that it is indeed a peacock.

Computers use "master/slave" protocols all the time:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37369...chitecture

They didn't call the architecture with any other names, because the name that's what makes sense, the right one is this: slave/master protocol.
If our ego got destroyed, everybody will have a better life in my opinion.

Primordial Bisque

We can't see him, so what happens in this forum happens: so that humanity get tested so some believe, some others don't.
Logically, our ancestors had to be in heaven, then get seduced by another creation, yet to be on this planet, and give birth to the human race, that will live the moment the parents lived: the moment Satan comes to whisper; over and over, generation by generation, until we reach a certain limit though. 

Until we die of course; in our case. 

Then rise, to find God, and know that this life was such a short one. 

He created the null though. It belongs to our world; outside there are other stuff - 6 heavens and we live in the first-.
Null might not mean a thing outside of this world?

Read about what came before the big bang. Interesting stuff.

Rhythm

The sun shines everyday though; earthquakes happen, tornadoes happen, death happens. We cant change that.
We are made from flesh; we can't change that.
We are a result of a big bang. We can't change that also.

If all that is valid, then how is the existence of a creator is so foreign to our minds? perhaps the image you have for the word "God" is different than the image I have in my head.

Perhaps it's the centuries of heathen ruling and Christian crusades, mixed with Jewish racism, and now Islamic terrorism and banality?


Quote:Wasn't "allah" either...so I'm not sure why you think this is relevant, lol?  

Agreeing on the fundamentals is a good thing though: "we came to this world helpless, unable to choose when or where or how".
It's relevant because simply, it's not wise to buy what many modern atheists take for granted; as a leap of faith; that there is nothing before the big bang.

That the big bang "just happened".
The rest is up to your observation. Allah fills the empty space, when we think about before.

If you think though, that the big bang "just happened"; then I must seriously question your reason, and seek my answers elsewhere.


Also, the world is too beautiful to be...a lucky hit of particles.


Quote:You know that's not what it means to be a slave, right, but so what if that ignorant notion of slavery as having to do with eating and breathing were true...I can't do anything about those...and yet still you don't find me picking the prayer cotton.  So I guess he's just feeding me food and air for the hell of it.  What a sucker.  Back in my great granpappies day, they killed a useless field animal.  Your massa is, apparently, fine with me goin straight mandingo on his ass. 


The definition of a slave, is from google's results:


Quote:noun

  1. 1.
    (especially in the past) a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.


Let's walk through the meaning, and see if it applies:

-a person: all of us are people; persons.
-we are a legal property: legally, by the laws of physics, we are properties of the law that governs our current case. Apply gravity, we get pulled. Apply an opposite force and we shall resist. All of science is built up on this rule of the "slave" definition; legally; by law. Math and physics prove it. Fall from a height, you die. Overload a ship, it sinks. Resist, you might survive; though black holes are always there to show us the limitations. By law. Legally. Legal possessions

-Forced to obey: holding your breath under the water is a fine example; "forced to breath".


Quote:Meh, you're a slave, you have a slave mentality.  I can't help you there.  Bet you're the kind of guy that'd take the whip to your fellow field hands if massa said so, too.... / shrugs.

When the case presents itself that way, I have to accept it. I seriously have no right to proud of a skin I didn't make, a country I didn't choose to be born in, or even claim the ownership of something I didn't make or hence: assembled from the creation of another.

It's like claiming control over the pyramids, and claiming that I built it.

Everything we make, is mere assembling of different pieces. 
And we are forced to assemble them, either by the power of delicious taste, or dreams of glory, or perhaps dreams of immortality?


Quote:Apparently I'm either not such a weak creature that I actually surrender, or your gods not powerful enough to force me to do it.  Either way, Massas pretty small for a slaver, and the most he could call me was his prisoner, lol.

You surrender with every breath but you reject it and refuse it, while a believer acknowledges this fact.
You surrender yet again, to gravity, your mind can fool you to believe that you're flying, but actually you're falling.


Quote:...I don;t give a shit about massa's reasons or morality, he's a slaver and I'm not a slave, lol.  He can go fuck himself, and also, send more food and air.  KTHXBAI. 

Slavery to him is different than slavery to man; just like the slave/master protocol in computers is different, and just like being subjective to physics laws is different, just like falling from a height and expecting to fly -without means of flying- is stupidity; not wisdom.


Quote:Then I'm not his slave after all, like you are. Sucks to be you?

The definition says otherwise.


Quote:Your gods never asked me to do anything, and slavers don't ask anyway, they command.  Why would I care what muslims do...you're the ambassador of the brand and here you are bullshitting us about human chattel?

He did command, actually that's the word used in the Quran.
I'm not bulshitting, Rhythm, but I studied and searched, a lot, this is what I found. I can't accept the notions presented by the modern world for creation, it goes against every word I ever studied about programming, I'm good at coding and writing code because of what I believe.

Object Oriented Programming is the reason behind what we have today. And object oriented programming traces every object to a source. 
Should I disbelieve in that, and assume that the world is not an object?
Just believe me. Your face, cloths, the way you speak, the money you have, the things you own, the car you drive, nothing of that defines you; only your actions do, only, that's your worth. Every action can be one of two: good or bad. That is you. Don't allow anybody to fool you into self-hating because of stupid standards, that sidetracks you from the main categories that define you.
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#13
RE: More about God
Okay, the reason you give for why I should care isn't very compelling. It's like telling me who built my house. Interesting but ultimately irrelevant. Even if they technically still own the house in some sense, but never show up to do anything about it, then again it doesn't matter to me.

You've convinced yourself you're a slave, that's rather sad. I'm a slave to no one. If I am in some sense a slave, I'm not aware of it and so again it is irrelevant. I'm restricted by physics of course, including what other life forms do to me. That's just life.
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#14
RE: More about God
So tl;dr: god exists because of unsubstantiable bullshit. Got it.
Soulless minion of orthodoxy.
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#15
RE: More about God
So your further argument to me is to yet again admit that you are calling me your god's slave. I reject this notion just as much as I did the first time. What a horrific god concept. Why would you want to worship this god if it even did exist?
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#16
RE: More about God
(11th November 2016, 17:35)AtlasS33 Wrote: I list the questions first; then the answers.

---> Why should I care?

--A--> Because everything began with him, he is the first and the last; he owns it all from before, and after. 

Even if we entertain this laughable notion - so what? He can own whatever he wants, as long as he doesn't touch my stuff.


(11th November 2016, 17:35)AtlasS33 Wrote: ---> Okay.. Why is he treating me like a slave?

---A---> Because the relation between us and him, is described with the word "slave" in our languages. 

No, dumbass - the relation between us and him, in our language is described with the words "imaginary friend".

(11th November 2016, 17:35)AtlasS33 Wrote: ---> That's very insulting
--A--> No. Being a slave to another human is, and to animals, and to lust.

What about being a slave to the rhythm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kSZVtLFygs

(11th November 2016, 17:35)AtlasS33 Wrote: --->How, lol??

---A--->Humans need help; God doesn't. At least you won't feed him under the whips of somebody else. 
Slavery is only disgusting with other creatures.

What? If god doesn't need help, then why do dimwitted apes, like you, have to spread his message, beg, threaten and confuse other morons to believe it and make hand-waving excuses for your allegedly all-powerful god's impotence?

(11th November 2016, 17:35)AtlasS33 Wrote: ---->what did he create?

--A-->everything. Even the void itself.

That's nice. However - I created this post, just now, not god. I also took a sh*t this morning - all by myself. So god did not create everything, now, did he? Does Allah personally make your poop?

(11th November 2016, 17:35)AtlasS33 Wrote: --->He shouldn't care about us? makes more sense I mean, he's too big according to your story !!!!!!!!!!!!

--A-->It depends on how we see ourselves, and if we moved from the neanderthal mentality yet.
With the existence of death; that who made us, can remakes us.

Only a God, creates creatures so little, in a universe so big.

I'm sorry, all of that is meaningless drivel. Maybe you can use it to impress some dumb chick, wearing a bag, so that she gives you an over-the-pants hand-job...

(11th November 2016, 17:35)AtlasS33 Wrote: I always share a song:

Yeah, so do I. Mine goes like this:

La la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la
God can suck my d*ck.

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#17
RE: More about God
(12th November 2016, 08:42)AtlasS33 Wrote: The sun shines everyday though; earthquakes happen, tornadoes happen, death happens. We cant change that.
It sure does, and we sure can't....and?

Quote:We are made from flesh; we can't change that.
Sure are, and we sure can't, and?

Quote:We are a result of a big bang. We can't change that also.
Seems so, and again, eems not...and again...........and?

Quote:If all that is valid, then how is the existence of a creator is so foreign to our minds?
Well, it's obviously not foreign to yours, lol.

Quote:perhaps the image you have for the word "God" is different than the image I have in my head.
Or perhaps it doesn;t mater to me what image of god you have in mind based upon the laughable non-sequiturs you listed off?

Quote:Perhaps it's the centuries of heathen ruling and Christian crusades, mixed with Jewish racism, and now Islamic terrorism and banality?
Meh, I assume you're angling for a bit of "people are dicks"...but ofc, to me, people are dicks regardless...and it in no way informs me as to whether or not I believe i god...nor, if I did believe in god, whether I would be interested.  If slaving cuntgod existed....even if all of his followers were super awesome people, I wouldn't be a follower of slaving cuntgod.  

It's not us, it's not you, it's totally him, lol.

Quote:Agreeing on the fundamentals is a good thing though: "we came to this world helpless, unable to choose when or where or how".
It's relevant because simply, it's not wise to buy what many modern atheists take for granted; as a leap of faith; that there is nothing before the big bang.

That the big bang "just happened".
The rest is up to your observation. Allah fills the empty space, when we think about before.

If you think though, that the big bang "just happened"; then I must seriously question your reason, and seek my answers elsewhere.


Also, the world is too beautiful to be...a lucky hit of particles.
Nothing to do with why I'm uninterested in your slaving cuntgod, so.....?


Quote:The definition of a slave, is from google's results:


Quote:noun

  1. 1.
    (especially in the past) a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.


Let's walk through the meaning, and see if it applies:
No need.  I'm neither the legal property of slaving cuntgod, nor am i forced to obey slaving cuntgod..or I'd be out picking the prayer cotton...which I'm not...even if you are, lol.

Quote:-a person: all of us are people; persons.
Some of us less so than others...it seems........  Angel

Quote:-we are a legal property: legally, by the laws of physics, we are properties of the law that governs our current case.

Quote:-Forced to obey: holding your breath under the water is a fine example; "forced to breath".

Oh, you mean that this whole slaving cuntgopd thing is an equivocation?  I never would have guessed.  Rolleyes

Quote:When the case presents itself that way, I have to accept it. I seriously have no right to proud of a skin I didn't make, a country I didn't choose to be born in, or even claim the ownership of something I didn't make or hence: assembled from the creation of another.

It's like claiming control over the pyramids, and claiming that I built it.

Everything we make, is mere assembling of different pieces. 
And we are forced to assemble them, either by the power of delicious taste, or dreams of glory, or perhaps dreams of immortality?
Slaves often think that way, I don't.  

Quote:You surrender with every breath but you reject it and refuse it, while a believer acknowledges this fact.
You surrender yet again, to gravity, your mind can fool you to believe that you're flying, but actually you're falling.
You either don;t understand the word surrender, or you're peddling yet another equivocation.  Your call, slave.

Quote:Slavery to him is different than slavery to man; just like the slave/master protocol in computers is different, and just like being subjective to physics laws is different, just like falling from a height and expecting to fly -without means of flying- is stupidity; not wisdom.
I'm not interested in the massas notions of slavery.  End of.  

Quote:The definition says otherwise.
LOL, does it....?  I think the definition is pretty clear, but it's no surprise that the massa's slave would argue against a definition and in favor of his massa.

Quote:He did command, actually that's the word used in the Quran.
I'm not bulshitting, Rhythm, but I studied and searched, a lot, this is what I found. I can't accept the notions presented by the modern world for creation, it goes against every word I ever studied about programming, I'm good at coding and writing code because of what I believe.
Why do you think I give a shit about what it or isn't in the quran, Atlas?  Why?  Use your brain, just this once.

Quote:Object Oriented Programming is the reason behind what we have today. And object oriented programming traces every object to a source. 
Should I disbelieve in that, and assume that the world is not an object?
You can assume whatever you like, but it's hardly relevant so I don't know why we're discussing it.

You are a slave, you have a slave mentality.  I am not, I do not.  You will never fish up new muslims by arguing for slavery....to those who are not slaves.
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Is that what he's trying to do? Make more Muslims? I really had no clue what he has been trying to achieve.

If I already am god's slave or some shit, I'm managing it perfectly well while ignoring him.
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Exactly.  Chillin out on massas plantation...eating his food, breathing his air, railing his women....and -not- picking the prayer cotton.  Bet it really pisses off all the dutiful slaves.

"Allah", is a cuckold.
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Wait, railing his women? Shooting them with a rail gun? Or did you mean a nail gun Big Grin

This is all rather weird.

"Life sucks!": I agree.

"It's this guy's fault!": Really? What a nob.

"Worship him!": Erm.... no.
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