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My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
(December 5, 2016 at 3:30 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Considering this is the same person who said sometimes he wishes he could murder every priest in the world, I'm not surprised by this stance.

I am surprised - those positions are very inconsistent. Why would he/she want to murder -every- priest around the world? Clearly - the priests outside of his/her country are not be his/her problem. The Syrians can kill their own priests... Tongue
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#32
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unless they're all Lesbians somehow . . .

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#33
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According to the UN, 25.4% of registered Syrian refugees are men aged 18 to 59.

http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php
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#34
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Iroscato Wrote:And the thought that a government can agree to bomb the shit out of a country, and then refuse to accept the inevitable flow of people looking to escape said bombing of said country, disgusts me to my core.

This.

If you are implicit in fucking up their home country, making it impossible for them to remain safely, you absolutely have a responsibility to provide sanctuary to those fortunate enough to make it out alive, not just mail them a blanket and a bottle of water and expect some other country to deal with the fallout.





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(December 5, 2016 at 3:52 pm)ukatheist Wrote:
Iroscato Wrote:And the thought that a government can agree to bomb the shit out of a country, and then refuse to accept the inevitable flow of people looking to escape said bombing of said country, disgusts me to my core.

This.

If you are implicit in fucking up their home country, making it impossible for them to remain safely, you absolutely have a responsibility to provide sanctuary to those fortunate enough to make it out alive, not just mail them a blanket and a bottle of water and expect some other country to deal with the fallout.





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I agree about taking them in, but bc they are human. Not because it's our governments fault that they are in trouble. Let's not blame the US. A lot of them are running away from Isis or other radicals. Not from what the US is doing.
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(December 5, 2016 at 4:28 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(December 5, 2016 at 3:52 pm)ukatheist Wrote: This.

If you are implicit in fucking up their home country, making it impossible for them to remain safely, you absolutely have a responsibility to provide sanctuary to those fortunate enough to make it out alive, not just mail them a blanket and a bottle of water and expect some other country to deal with the fallout.





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I agree about taking them in, but bc they are human. Not because it's our governments fault that they are in trouble. Let's not blame the US. A lot of them are running away from Isis or other radicals. Not from what the US is doing.
I was referring to the UK, whose response to the crisis has been pitiful.

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(December 5, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Macoleco Wrote: These refugees have strong religious beliefs, and if you let them in, their religion will start to spread. They will start building churches and mosques. And this, in the long run, will hurt society, the world, a lot more than letting some people die. Yes, even children. (Example of this: Londonistan, eh, I mena, London)

What, like these people?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...84146.html

Or this man?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2cjYaXC1sg

I think I'm going to start doing this more often, showing people what exactly these "strong religious beliefs" are and what their "culture" is like.

I'm not doing this to deny that there's real Wahhabism and a push for Sharia even in Europe, there is. But we seriously need to stop indirectly giving power to Islamists by erasing normal people, to whom Islam is just one part of their multi-faceted identities. Like I said yesterday, you are not going to beat this far-right Islamist movement by shaming this apparently homogeneous "Muslim community". Change comes with normalising stories like the ones I posted, instead of giving so much attention and platforming to reactionary religious fascism masquerading as "authentic culture".
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#38
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It's the age-old instinct to fear The Outsider, manifested into a new, more abstract form. It's not the first, and it won't be the last.

In 200 years we'll probably be hesitant to allow people without cybernetic implants into the country, because they won't be able to keep up with the upgraded Übermensch natives in whatever few jobs haven't been automated. A few might also spread their dangerous, backward beliefs about abandoning the pursuit of perfection through upgrades.

Farfetched? Perhaps, but 200 years ago blacks worked the cotton fields, women were little more than decorative cattle and the fastest method of transportation was the steam locomotive. The world changed, people kept moving from place to place and there was a distinct lack of societal collapse because of it.
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#39
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I'd rather live in hope than fear. I'd rather be decent than ignoble. I'd rather be reasonable than xenophobic.

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(December 5, 2016 at 2:47 pm)Macoleco Wrote: Would you have no problem with a refugee hurting a civilian?

What's the distinction?
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