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This is strange. Explaining stuff to myself.
#21
RE: This is strange. Explaining stuff to myself.
This is why, when choosing a Christian religion to disbelieve, I choose, specifically, the Jehovah's Witness doctrine.  If I'm wrong Jebus will bring me back anyway and give me a second chance.  And if I STILL don't accept then what will happen to me is what I, as an atheist, is going to happen to me anyway.  I'm going to cease to exist.  What if I'm wrong?  They what I think is going to happen to me is EXACTLY what is going to happen to me.  It really is the best Christian religion to disbelieve.
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#22
RE: This is strange. Explaining stuff to myself.
(December 12, 2016 at 10:43 am)Crossless1 Wrote:
(December 12, 2016 at 8:00 am)Little Rik Wrote: Hum.
Something new to me that Buddhists and Hindus believe in hell.
Can you please tell me where you got this information from?  Thanks

That was news to me, too. But then I found this:

Naraka (Sanskrit: नरक) is the Sanskrit word for the underworld; literally, of man. According to some schools of Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism and Buddhism, Naraka is a place of torment, or Hell. The word 'Neraka' (modification of Naraka) in Indonesian and Malaysian has also been used to describe the Islamic concept of Hell.

So . . . yeah. There are so many strands of Hinduism and Buddhism, I suppose some ideas -- such as Naraka being in some sense a place or state of torment in the afterlife -- might have gained currency among some believers. But I certainly don't recall Buddha, for example, being said to have talked about this. And the idea seems to fly in the face of Karma/reincarnation.

Considering the enormous area over which Buddhism, especially, spread, it's not really that surprising, I suppose. It's probably not much different than Western religions spreading over a wide area and absorbing local beliefs/customs along the way. The absorbed ideas might not be accepted as orthodox, but they may become a part of some communities' approach to the "mother faith" into which they are absorbed.


In Bali most people follow a degenerate form of Hinduism.
By the way Hinduism is also a degenerate form of yoga so if we go down and down in the degeneration process we can see devils and hell just like we can see in the Balinese culture but if we go the opposite way toward the original philosophy there is no place for devils and hell that is why we should be very careful before we judge just by looking at some degenerative forms of the original one.  Lightbulb


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#23
RE: This is strange. Explaining stuff to myself.
Hinduism is a degenerate form of Yoga. Wtf?

Oh, it's Little Rik. Carry on...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#24
RE: This is strange. Explaining stuff to myself.
Don't worry about Alex Crossless.
He only bark but doesn't bite.  Smile

The guy doesn't know that religions originate from pure spirituality so it is obvious that Hinduism originate from yoga as it is obvious that Christianity originate from Jesus' spirituality and also Buddhism originate from the same yoga that Shiva and Krishna were teaching.  Lightbulb
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#25
RE: This is strange. Explaining stuff to myself.
It's true, I don't know that.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#26
RE: This is strange. Explaining stuff to myself.
(December 13, 2016 at 10:46 am)Little Rik Wrote: Don't worry about Alex Crossless.
He only bark but doesn't bite.  Smile

The guy doesn't know that religions originate from pure spirituality so it is obvious that Hinduism originate from yoga as it is obvious that Christianity originate from Jesus' spirituality and also Buddhism originate from the same yoga that Shiva and Krishna were teaching.  Lightbulb

That Hinduism got its origins from yoga is not 'obvious'. The word 'yoga', as far as I can determine based on an online search, is first mentioned in the Rig Veda. Whether the Vedic religion adopted yoga as practiced by outside groups like the Vratyas, or whether it developed yoga itself prior to the Vedas being written is unclear to me.

As for religions originating from "pure spirituality", something more than a mere claim will be needed. Do you mean to say that it's true of all religions? Put me down as skeptical.
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#27
RE: This is strange. Explaining stuff to myself.
(December 13, 2016 at 12:15 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(December 13, 2016 at 10:46 am)Little Rik Wrote: Don't worry about Alex Crossless.
He only bark but doesn't bite.  Smile

The guy doesn't know that religions originate from pure spirituality so it is obvious that Hinduism originate from yoga as it is obvious that Christianity originate from Jesus' spirituality and also Buddhism originate from the same yoga that Shiva and Krishna were teaching.  Lightbulb

That Hinduism got its origins from yoga is not 'obvious'. The word 'yoga', as far as I can determine based on an online search, is first mentioned in the Rig Veda. Whether the Vedic religion adopted yoga as practiced by outside groups like the Vratyas, or whether it developed yoga itself prior to the Vedas being written is unclear to me.

As for religions originating from "pure spirituality", something more than a mere claim will be needed. Do you mean to say that it's true of all religions? Put me down as skeptical.


Suppose I tell you something.
After sometime you tell somebody else what I did tell you.
After some other time that guy which you told him something about me tell somebody else what he remember that was told to him and the thing goes on and on for sometime.
Do you really think that the original story is the same as the last one?
This is one problem that prevent the real story from staying the same.
The other and most serious problem is that as the time goes by the original teaching is changed because
people always try to twist the original teaching in order to make it easy for them to follow.
And the last is that priests try to become intermediaries between God and the masses in order to sit in the chair of power. In this way they have to invent all sort of lies like hell in order to mentally control the masses.

As the food become stale after sometime also the old teaching become stale and the real McCoy is lost.
This is how pure spirituality become a religion.
Shiva, Krishna, Buddha, Jesus and others never talk about devils and hell but those religions that suppose to follow these spiritual beings do.

Now the last point.
How do I know this?
Anybody can if they really want.
Easy.
The connection between us and God is open 24/7.
If you are sincere and your reason to know is pure and devoid of any selfish interests then God will let you know.
There is a saying Cross and that goes.........WHEN THE STUDENT IS READY THE TEACHER WILL APPEAR.  Lightbulb
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