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Request from a Christian.
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RE: Request from a Christian.
(31st December 2016, 11:14)Dragonspride1995 Wrote: Well uhh, about the testimony. I apologise. I wrote it at around three AM ish Last night, went on the rules I must have glanced over the no pasting links rules. I was trying to find a way to create a connection to you guys by providing my testimony and allow a deeper conversation. Thank You to bryan and Jester but this is obviously not the place for this type of conversation. As for my book, it will have nothing to do with theology. I was wanting to write on the topic of how Christians treat atheists. Such as aforementioned families ostracizing when someone turns away from their religion, or sometimes even denomination. I'm sorry if I was not clear about this. And well, exit stage left. Any mods want to close this topic go ahead.

This forum is a perfectly good place to see how Christians treat atheists. We have many decent people who are Christian joining right in. A few are buttheads but not really terrible people. Some are simply gems , like Our Catholic Lady of the Forum. Please share your ideas and prepare to have them fired upon . All in good sport. Not a war, more like skeet shooting.
"Churches are becoming political organizations... It probably will not be long until the churches will divide as sharply upon political, as upon theological questions; and when that day comes, if there are not liberals enough to hold the balance of power, this Government will be destroyed. The liberty of man is not safe in the hands of any church." R. Ingersoll







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#22
RE: Request from a Christian.
I see no need to close a thread that's generating conversation.

If nothing else, this shows how differently theists are treated here compared to vice versa on a typical xtian forum, generally speaking.
Please read and abide by the Forum Rules, available here.


(21st June 2016, 07:31)Homeless Nutter Wrote: When someone is knocked on the head, they may see stars. That doesn't mean we should rely on their testimony, when studying astrophysics...
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#23
RE: Request from a Christian.
Well, you can leave if you want to. I hope you stay, though. This isn't just an echo-chamber of atheism, after all. It's an open discussion forum.
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#24
RE: Request from a Christian.
Oh don't worry too much about the rules.  They aren't draconian or tricky (other than the 30/30 rule  Big Grin ).  They mostly boil down to "don't be a cunt".  If you don't cause a lot of ruckus other places you go chances are you'll get on fine here too.  Hell I didn't read them for probably my first year here.  But then I was also retarded about starting an intro thread.  Took many gentle prods by a forum regular to get me to do it having been brought up mostly without gentile manners by my wolf clan.
Belief .. is the insistence that the truth is what one would .. wish it to be. The believer will open his mind to the truth on the condition that it fits in with his preconceived ideas and wishes. 


Faith, on the other hand, is an unreserved opening of the mind to the truth, whatever it may turn out to be.  


- Alan Watts, The Wisdom of Insecurity
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#25
RE: Request from a Christian.
I think some of the responses from ppl were a little rude to him, to be honest. He made it very clear in his OP that he's not trying g to preach, merely trying to write a book about how some Christians treat atheists badly, in hopes of calling attention to this issue to stop it. I don't really blame him for leaving.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#26
RE: Request from a Christian.
(31st December 2016, 12:19)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think some of the responses from ppl were a little rude to him, to be honest. He made it very clear in his OP that he's not trying g to preach, merely trying to write a book about how some Christians treat atheists badly, in hopes of calling attention to this issue to stop it. I don't really blame him for leaving.

I hope he sticks around. Maybe he is just giving up this thread. I wonder what his motivation for easing relations between atheists and christians? Good will or does he think being nice is a better way to evangelize ? Perhaps we will find out.
"Churches are becoming political organizations... It probably will not be long until the churches will divide as sharply upon political, as upon theological questions; and when that day comes, if there are not liberals enough to hold the balance of power, this Government will be destroyed. The liberty of man is not safe in the hands of any church." R. Ingersoll







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#27
RE: Request from a Christian.
(31st December 2016, 12:19)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think some of the responses from ppl were a little rude to him, to be honest. He made it very clear in his OP that he's not trying g to preach, merely trying to write a book about how some Christians treat atheists badly, in hopes of calling attention to this issue to stop it. I don't really blame him for leaving.

CL what can and does bother us is that people often come in here with some sort of pre conceived notion as to what will occur here. But not just here, on this website, but with atheist pages and social media anywhere. 

Rest assured if anyone as a theist, like you whom have spent long period of time here, already know by now, we are not going to stab you to death.

I think humans should be more offended by violence and death than getting offended. 

It's not a matter of his preaching or intent for that matter, it is about logic. Same with you. We've gone after you too, sometimes with the harshest of words, and you are still here and you still know we are not going to call for your murder.

To be fair, even many atheists can and do have different comfort levels as much as theists can have different comfort levels. I think it is more important to understand that everyone is different than to claim their is only one right way to converse.

If we all got to silence or murder each other because we read or hear things we don't like, there is not one human on this face of the planet that could not think, even if only in mind, of things they would rather not hear or see.  Civility isn't ever in never offending or getting offended, but in how one responds in the face of those situations.


Ultimately you can only control you, not others. In the context of this board, only the owners and admins conduct the rules and behaviors here. The rest of us as mere guests can make requests to each other and or the admins, but we cant dictate as mere guests to each other.

But trust us, we are not out to get him or you. Your logic sure, your claims sure, but not in any revenge or law context.
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#28
RE: Request from a Christian.
(31st December 2016, 08:45)Bella Morte Wrote:
(31st December 2016, 05:20)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I've had a motorcycle vandalized by Christians, I've had rocks thrown through my windows by Christians, I had to buy a house through a front because the owners instructed the estate agents not to sell to non-Protestants, and I was very nearly killed by a bomb planted by Christian militants.

On a smaller scale, I've had to put up with Christians who visit this board without - clearly - having read the rules first.

Boru

Sorry you went through all that but at least you lived to the tell the tale and started a nice life in New Zealand, right?

As opposed to the 3000+ who didn't live through it, yes.  All it cost me was a classic motorbike, six windows, eight teeth, my left eye, a promising rugby career, and the dignity that should be afforded to any human being.  Fuck you.

Boru
'There are people who long for immortality in the afterlife who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.' - Isaac Asimov
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#29
RE: Request from a Christian.
(31st December 2016, 12:19)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think some of the responses from ppl were a little rude to him, to be honest. He made it very clear in his OP that he's not trying g to preach, merely trying to write a book about how some Christians treat atheists badly, in hopes of calling attention to this issue to stop it. I don't really blame him for leaving.

Hey, I didn't say anything.   Yet.



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#30
RE: Request from a Christian.
(31st December 2016, 12:19)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think some of the responses from ppl were a little rude to him, to be honest. He made it very clear in his OP that he's not trying g to preach, merely trying to write a book about how some Christians treat atheists badly, in hopes of calling attention to this issue to stop it. I don't really blame him for leaving.

Stop it? When has religion/the Church ever stopped attacking its enemies? Lol.
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