Christianity actually condones murder

[Godscreated]

[quote='Godschild' pid='1480046' dateline='1483420044'

The only thing you have accomplished thus far in your discussion with me is your total lack of understanding of the Bible. Your ignorance stands out like a sore thumb and not only that you've proved nothing except to delude yourself in believing you know one iota about the scriptures. Until you can give me an answer to the question I posed to you I will consider you have nothing of value to discuss.

GC

Totally, utterly laughable. Projecting your own failures onto others, typical. While you try to explain why 2+2=5, our attempts to correct you are being ignored and called into question when it's your phony god's obvious imperfect human nature shining through and embarrassing you both. I'm sorry if your lack of reading comprehension is this severe but that'll happen when you only ever read one book. Called circular logic, maybe try stepping off that track, you might learn something worthwhile.
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The laughable thing in all this nonsense you allow to seep out of your mind, thoughtless trash. I've asked you a question and you refuse to answer it and why, because you can't, you haven't the biblical knowledge to accomplish such an easy task. If you want to have a biblical discussion with me study the Bible and answer the question. Don't tell me I don't know scripture and that you do because you've not shown oneproof.of knowledge or proof. I've had all this trash you are spouting thrown at me many times and yet none have proven such dribble.

GC

[Astonished]

Totally, utterly laughable. Projecting your own failures onto others, typical. While you try to explain why 2+2=5, our attempts to correct you are being ignored and called into question when it's your phony god's obvious imperfect human nature shining through and embarrassing you both. I'm sorry if your lack of reading comprehension is this severe but that'll happen when you only ever read one book. Called circular logic, maybe try stepping off that track, you might learn something worthwhile.

The laughable thing in all this nonsense you allow to seep out of your mind, thoughtless trash. I've asked you a question and you refuse to answer it and why, because you can't, you haven't the biblical knowledge to accomplish such an easy task. If you want to have a biblical discussion with me study the Bible and answer the question. Don't tell me I don't know scripture and that you do because you've not shown oneproof.of knowledge or proof. I've had all this trash you are spouting thrown at me many times and yet none have proven such dribble.

GC

I provided a passage in the bible (just one of many) that prove you wrong and you gave the most convoluted non-sequitur of a response to it. If you're going to be that incoherent, you don't deserve being humored with any kind of answers, and you wouldn't accept them anyway. Being closed-minded will tend to do that to you. Your refusal to see the bible for what it really is when it's pointed out to you clearly and distinctly is not a failure on my part, but on yours. And again, projection, you're the one spouting thoughtless trash. Seriously, get a mirror so you can aim your projections at the real target.

[Godscreated]

The laughable thing in all this nonsense you allow to seep out of your mind, thoughtless trash. I've asked you a question and you refuse to answer it and why, because you can't, you haven't the biblical knowledge to accomplish such an easy task. If you want to have a biblical discussion with me study the Bible and answer the question. Don't tell me I don't know scripture and that you do because you've not shown oneproof.of knowledge or proof. I've had all this trash you are spouting thrown at me many times and yet none have proven such dribble.

GC

I provided a passage in the bible (just one of many) that prove you wrong and you gave the most convoluted non-sequitur of a response to it. If you're going to be that incoherent, you don't deserve being humored with any kind of answers, and you wouldn't accept them anyway. Being closed-minded will tend to do that to you. Your refusal to see the bible for what it really is when it's pointed out to you clearly and distinctly is not a failure on my part, but on yours. And again, projection, you're the one spouting thoughtless trash. Seriously, get a mirror so you can aim your projections at the real target.

CHICKEN!!!!!

GC

[Astonished]

I provided a passage in the bible (just one of many) that prove you wrong and you gave the most convoluted non-sequitur of a response to it. If you're going to be that incoherent, you don't deserve being humored with any kind of answers, and you wouldn't accept them anyway. Being closed-minded will tend to do that to you. Your refusal to see the bible for what it really is when it's pointed out to you clearly and distinctly is not a failure on my part, but on yours. And again, projection, you're the one spouting thoughtless trash. Seriously, get a mirror so you can aim your projections at the real target.

CHICKEN!!!!!

GC

Uh, you're afraid of your own god, and I'm not. Who's the cowardly little wuss, again?

Welcome to the ignore button, you waste of human flesh.

[Godscreated]

CHICKEN!!!!!

GC

Uh, you're afraid of your own god, and I'm not. Who's the cowardly little wuss, again?

Welcome to the ignore button, you waste of human flesh.

Good I was tired of reading your hate and ignorance.

GC

[Astonished]

In place of the empty replies from the person who can't figure out they're being ignored, I'm just imagining myself laughing at them.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Here are the verses you only need to know, the first one is from a Parable of Ten Minas.

Luke 19:27 
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me

Psalm 2, from wikipedia half is contributed to King David while half other is for the future messiah, which is actually written in the new testament so christians believe this is speaking about Jesus. If not then wikipedia didn't do their research but then again i have read these verses myself so it looks solid.

Psalm 2:7-12
7 I will proclaim the Lord’s decree:
He said to me, “You are my son;
    today I have become your father.
8 Ask me,
    and I will make the nations your inheritance,
    the ends of the earth your possession.
9 You will break them with a rod of iron;
    you will dash them to pieces like pottery.”
10 Therefore, you kings, be wise;
    be warned, you rulers of the earth.
11 Serve the Lord with fear
    and celebrate his rule with trembling.
12 Kiss his son, or he will be angry
    and your way will lead to your destruction,
for his wrath can flare up in a moment.
    Blessed are all who take refuge in him.

Hebrews 5:5
5 In the same way, Christ did not take on himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him,

“You are my Son;
    today I have become your Father.


Ever seen Alucard with Father Anderson scene in the museum, he quotes this verse even though its a good fiction Japanese animation.

But don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean Christians should act towards violence because here is another verse that Jesus said

Matthew 26:52
52 “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

So let us summarize this.

Basically if i lets say lived in medieval times, i want you to convert to Christ, rid yourself of this world and of your evil ways. I try to be reasonable, bribe you etc. But you don't want to. Well... we tried "pulls out the sword".

Thats basically what you can use to justify murder. Which is why i think its delusion for that guy at Acts17Apologetics that he clearly misrepresents or don't understand the bible or is clearly bias because of his beliefs. It was a video by David Wood where he reacted to a Sam Harris video.

In either case. I have yet seen anything that can refute the knowledge i have shared here. I would love to hear though if they can refute this as a justisification for it.

That verse from Luke 19:27 seems to express the idea in the Jewish Babylonian Talmud Eiruvin 21b 
21b http://halakhah.com/pdf/moed/Eiruvin.pdf[/url] that says whoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will by punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.  Jesus was referred to as "rabbi" in numerous passages.  And in John 15:6 he threatens those who abandon him with burning.

[Drich]

Here are the verses you only need to know, the first one is from a Parable of Ten Minas.

Luke 19:27 
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me

Psalm 2, from wikipedia half is contributed to King David while half other is for the future messiah, which is actually written in the new testament so christians believe this is speaking about Jesus. If not then wikipedia didn't do their research but then again i have read these verses myself so it looks solid.

Psalm 2:7-12
7 I will proclaim the Lord’s decree:
He said to me, “You are my son;
    today I have become your father.
8 Ask me,
    and I will make the nations your inheritance,
    the ends of the earth your possession.
9 You will break them with a rod of iron;
    you will dash them to pieces like pottery.”
10 Therefore, you kings, be wise;
    be warned, you rulers of the earth.
11 Serve the Lord with fear
    and celebrate his rule with trembling.
12 Kiss his son, or he will be angry
    and your way will lead to your destruction,
for his wrath can flare up in a moment.
    Blessed are all who take refuge in him.

Hebrews 5:5
5 In the same way, Christ did not take on himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him,

“You are my Son;
    today I have become your Father.


Ever seen Alucard with Father Anderson scene in the museum, he quotes this verse even though its a good fiction Japanese animation.

But don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean Christians should act towards violence because here is another verse that Jesus said

Matthew 26:52
52 “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

So let us summarize this.

Basically if i lets say lived in medieval times, i want you to convert to Christ, rid yourself of this world and of your evil ways. I try to be reasonable, bribe you etc. But you don't want to. Well... we tried "pulls out the sword".

Thats basically what you can use to justify murder. Which is why i think its delusion for that guy at Acts17Apologetics that he clearly misrepresents or don't understand the bible or is clearly bias because of his beliefs. It was a video by David Wood where he reacted to a Sam Harris video.

In either case. I have yet seen anything that can refute the knowledge i have shared here. I would love to hear though if they can refute this as a justisification for it.

...You do understand the difference between killing and murder correct?

You get even in today's society it is not always wrong to kill another human being right?

Therefore not all instances of taking Human life is murder. The difference? the measure of the law. If the law permits it whether the law be your cup-o-tea or not it is not murder.

Wake up sport and look at really any non white western culture, you will find huge gaps in the things they do and the things you do/find moral.. Does it make them automatically wrong, just because they did not grow up in your culture?

[phoenix31]

And excuses to kill other human beings outside your circle have been made by every religion. Even in Hinduism and Buddhism.

I'm new here so I hope this question is OK...not trying to derail the conversation. But your comment made me curious about the condoning of murder that you're discussing in Buddhism, as I haven't heard of it and have always considered Buddhism to be a peaceful practice. Do you care to elaborate?

[Ravenshire]

From the Ten Commandments: Thou shall not kill.

GC

From many other places in the buy-bull:
(paraphrased) "Unless I tell you to."