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Did anyone else get deconverted by a single sentence?
#21
RE: Did anyone else get deconverted by a single sentence?
That had always bugged me, telling me that god was my 'father' (I was raised by a single mother, never knew who provided the sperm) and yet I never felt his presence or any benefits from having him as part of my life. Ever since, I always say, "The bastard owes me 18 years of child support" whenever someone tries to tell me about 'god the father'.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
#22
RE: Did anyone else get deconverted by a single sentence?
(January 1, 2017 at 2:02 pm)Astonished Wrote: Hitchens? Hell no. I don't think anybody looks like Ben Stiller, now that I think about it. Just look him up on youtube, Christopher Hitchens. There's the pre-cancer one and the post-cancer one, and neither resemble Stiller. Neither does AronRa.

https://jesusanddawkins.files.wordpress....iller.jpeg

Edit: Did you get the Yo-Yo- Ma joke yet?
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
#23
RE: Did anyone else get deconverted by a single sentence?
(January 1, 2017 at 1:54 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(January 1, 2017 at 1:52 pm)Astonished Wrote: Ah, I see. Something like in Hitchens' book where he quoted one of his own pastors as saying, "You might not see the truth of this now, or the importance, but wait until you start losing loved ones." Contemptible. As if the only way to deal with grief is to pretend they're sitting on a cloud playing a harp someplace we can't see til we die too.

Is that they guy that looks like Ben Stiller?

Stimbo said his friends tell him he looks like Christopher Hitchens (author of books like God is Not Great and The Portable Atheist). @Astonished. please correct me if you're not talking about Christopher Hitchens.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
#24
RE: Did anyone else get deconverted by a single sentence?
(January 1, 2017 at 2:47 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:
(January 1, 2017 at 1:54 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Is that they guy that looks like Ben Stiller?

Stimbo said his friends tell him he looks like Christopher Hitchens (author of books like God is Not Great and The Portable Atheist).  @Astonished. please correct me if you're not talking about Christopher Hitchens.

I had never seen that comparison between Harris and Stiller, and I don't think they look anything alike, so that's lost on me. Now, the Bush and Chimpanzee meme, THAT I can totally see.

But Hitchens, AronRa, anyone I've mentioned was probably referred to down the line in some way. I'm just not a big Ben Stiller fan.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
#25
RE: Did anyone else get deconverted by a single sentence?
(January 1, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Astonished Wrote:
(January 1, 2017 at 2:47 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Stimbo said his friends tell him he looks like Christopher Hitchens (author of books like God is Not Great and The Portable Atheist).  @Astonished. please correct me if you're not talking about Christopher Hitchens.

I had never seen that comparison between Harris and Stiller, and I don't think they look anything alike, so that's lost on me. Now, the Bush and Chimpanzee meme, THAT I can totally see.

But Hitchens, AronRa, anyone I've mentioned was probably referred to down the line in some way. I'm just not a big Ben Stiller fan.

bold mine

Blasphemer!
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
#26
RE: Did anyone else get deconverted by a single sentence?
Can't help it, just don't find him that entertaining. I think his high point was as Mr. Furious in Mystery Men.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
#27
RE: Did anyone else get deconverted by a single sentence?
(January 1, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Astonished Wrote:
(January 1, 2017 at 2:47 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Stimbo said his friends tell him he looks like Christopher Hitchens (author of books like God is Not Great and The Portable Atheist).  @Astonished. please correct me if you're not talking about Christopher Hitchens.

I had never seen that comparison between Harris and Stiller, and I don't think they look anything alike, so that's lost on me. Now, the Bush and Chimpanzee meme, THAT I can totally see.

But Hitchens, AronRa, anyone I've mentioned was probably referred to down the line in some way. I'm just not a big Ben Stiller fan.

Never heard of Stiller. I was saying Hitchens and Stimbo (a member here) look alike, or so his friends tell him.

Back to your point, the things Christians tell us to excuse the fact that things don't happen in real life the way they do in the bible have driven many away from the church. For me, it wasn't one thing, but over and over again. The killer I will always remember, a guy who called himself a prophet came to my church and told me that the bible says faith comes by hearing, and since I'm deaf, faith can't come to me. My pastor just stood there grinning like an idiot.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
#28
RE: Did anyone else get deconverted by a single sentence?
(January 1, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:
(January 1, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Astonished Wrote: I had never seen that comparison between Harris and Stiller, and I don't think they look anything alike, so that's lost on me. Now, the Bush and Chimpanzee meme, THAT I can totally see.

But Hitchens, AronRa, anyone I've mentioned was probably referred to down the line in some way. I'm just not a big Ben Stiller fan.

Never heard of Stiller. I was saying Hitchens and Stimbo (a member here) look alike, or so his friends tell him.

Back to your point, the things Christians tell us to excuse the fact that things don't happen in real life the way they do in the bible have driven many away from the church. For me, it wasn't one thing, but over and over again. The killer I will always remember, a guy who called himself a prophet came to my church and told me that the bible says faith comes by hearing, and since I'm deaf, faith can't come to me. My pastor just stood there grinning like an idiot.

That kind of thing is what prevented me from ever giving it a second chance. I would ask, if Jesus would go around healing the blind, wasn't he just playing favorites? Why do it for them and not everybody who is blind? If there's no level playing field, it's impossible for god to love us all equally, and if he doesn't love us all equally, that isn't a perfectly loving god. Their attempts to over-reach on god's perfection and benevolence backfired as defenses for faith in me.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
#29
RE: Did anyone else get deconverted by a single sentence?
(January 1, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:
(January 1, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Astonished Wrote: I had never seen that comparison between Harris and Stiller, and I don't think they look anything alike, so that's lost on me. Now, the Bush and Chimpanzee meme, THAT I can totally see.

But Hitchens, AronRa, anyone I've mentioned was probably referred to down the line in some way. I'm just not a big Ben Stiller fan.

Never heard of Stiller. I was saying Hitchens and Stimbo (a member here) look alike, or so his friends tell him.

It comes from this little exchange from about eighteen months ago:

(June 22, 2015 at 10:44 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
(June 22, 2015 at 9:40 pm)Stimbo Wrote: None at all, by definition.

That's not what Christopher Hitchens said. But whatever.

(June 23, 2015 at 3:44 am)Stimbo Wrote: It may have escaped your notice but I am not Christopher Hitchens. Maybe it's something of an alien concept for you but I don't necessarily have to agree lock-step with everything said by other people, even if they are or were atheists. It's not as though we revere our 'leaders', such as they are, merely because they happen to be prominent. They're not our popes or anything so silly.

However, feel free to give the actual quote of what the Hitch said.

Later, I was seemingly mistaken for another celebrity, via accusations that the quote I cited ("Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.") was plagiarised from somemagic book or other:

(July 3, 2015 at 2:21 pm)Stimbo Wrote: On the other hand, it could be that he thinks I'm Lincoln if I'm the one accused of plagiarising his special book. First Christopher Hitchens, now Abraham Lincoln. I didn't realise they thought my oratory is that good.

(July 3, 2015 at 6:42 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(July 3, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What's with the Lincoln avatar, Stim?

Somehow in the last few days, I've been told that I'm Christopher Hitchens and just recently Abe Lincoln. I didn't know this, nobody ever thought to tell me before. So I thought I'd create a mashup of the two.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
#30
RE: Did anyone else get deconverted by a single sentence?
I don't resemble anyone famous as far as I can tell, but ever since I moved to Sacramento, people tell me I resemble someone they know all the time. Never happened in Santa Rosa where I grew up.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.



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