Steve Harvey Meets with Trump to Discuss Housing and Inner-city Issues

[Athene]

Yeah...lick them boots, boy. Massa likes 'em nice and shiny.

Fuck Steve Harvey.

Always think it's funny how black people react to other black people who free themselves from the plantation. Almost like black identity is to be a victim. It's really sad and a major reason black America is stuck in the poverty trap. Always blaming something or someone else. You get what you give, and the only thing you have control over is your mind because thought manifest into the real world. You should look to black conservatives, they are free. Black progressives, just manage the plantation. That's why black leftists call black conservatives, sell outs, house negros, negropeans, oreos, etc. They want the black America to remain on the plantation, and pressure their followers to not leave so they can continue their hustle.

Ever listen to the mulligan brothers motivational youtube channel? I listen to it when I'm at the gym.

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Well, scooby...I'm a self-reliant woman; and I categorically reject this notion of permanent victimhood that you casually assign to any black American that falls outside your master list of "Acceptable Negroes".

I do not reside in the inner-city. I am NOT impoverished. I expect nothing to be handed to me.
And I still say Fuck Steve Harvey.

What do you make of that?

[Aroura]

Steve Harvey is a sexist assholes who judges people based on religious orientation. Has absolutely nothing to do with his skin color, and everything to do with his shitty personality. Stop strawmanning.

[Lek]

BULLSHIT AND FUCK YOU, 

MLK cared not only about blacks but said himself, when you care for minorities you help even yourself. How anyone equates that to laziness or a handout is bullshit. 

Now your fucking scapegoating asshole demagogue preyed off right wing fear. That asshole spent 5 years painting Obama as "other". It worked so well that we have tape of McCain in a town hall and about the only one who really did anything, we have tape of him telling a brainwashed white lady that Obama was not a secret Muslim. Trump sold Obama's 8 years of RECOVERY successfully as a failure. Has a bigoted VP who preyed also off of white people who read the bible and justify denying equality to LGBT. He started his campaign bating Hispanics, scapegoating those fleeing from war, even attacked war heros. 

And on the weekend of MLK's holiday attacked a Civil Rights leader, who got beaten up and arrested because of the white bible based Christianity of his time. You want me to think there was no intent in that to bait people? BULLSHIT.

So here is how equality works without using religiously based race baiting.

You, "Steve Harvey met with Trump"

Me, "So, both managed how to move up the economic ladder, but that does not make either right about what works in a three class system"

THAT is how you do it. This is just all optics for Trump. He isn't going to do fucking shit for poor rural whites either.

Same with Hispanics.

Trump was race baiting "Mexicans are rapists, I am sure some of them are good"  

Again bullshit, there are on average about 80,000 sexual assault reports every year in America, the majority of those accused or convicted are going to MOSTLY be people born here with legal citizenship. I have TWO Hispanic families living on both sides of me, never had the cops show up or seen any of them accused of rape, and I don't give ONE FUCK about their legal status either, what matters to me is that they are a fellow human being, and I will not fear anyone until that INDIVIDUAL gives me something to fear.

The right way to put it without being a dick, would be "We should deport violent individuals who don't have legal documentation". Nobody would or should disagree with that.  No need to talk about national origin. People from even Europe have stayed illegally and some also commit crimes. Not because they are from Europe or Mexico or any nation, but because when you force people into hiding, and you don't give them a means to survive, any human can become desperate, the same goes for why mostly white rural West Virginia has an opiate heroine problem.  And even down here where I live in the sticks I see reports of crimes of WHITEs accused of drug possession and sales and violence. 

Trump is a dangerous demagogue, and there simply is no polite way to put it. He didn't simply attack Obama, or one individual or one group. He sold fear of everyone else, used hyper nationalism, aimed vile bullshit everywhere carpet bombing everyone, even cannibalized his own to win the nomination. He aimed his vitriol at everyone. 

I don't like Steve Harvey as an individual, not because he is black. I also don't begrudge him for having more or making more. But I also know he is deeply religious and makes the same flaws in logic that Reginald Finley the "Infidel Guy" and even Neil Tyson would see through. I don't like Steve for purely issues of logic and siding with a party that wants to turn back the clock on minorities rights. Same issue with women, sure you can vote for Trump, no law against it, but why? Steve and women and Hispanics and even Vets, shoot themselves in the foot voting for that party.

And LGBT as well, our nation up till a decade ago gave no equal rights to LGBT, Mike Pence as a VP pick is a reaction to a big enough minority of assholes on the right, freaking out now because they no longer control the narrative as to what it means to be an American or even what it means to be religious. 


This is not sour grapes for the left one bit. Even the right says "Trump is different" the left agrees, but not in a good way. We have seen in the past what political demagoguery has done with McCarthyism and Jim Crow and WW2 Germany, and any European Jew old enough to have lived that can tell you now that Trump is not a road of political tactic you want spreading.

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By the way Lek, undocumented Hispanics are so fucking evil, my neighbors were having a BBQ and those evil "rapists" just brought me a plate of food which I wasn't expecting. So a special FUCK YOU.

How in the world did you come to these conclusions about me by reading my last post? I think you're all losing it. I thought I was talking about Steve Harvey trying to help people in the inner cities and how you guys are trying to condemn him. Did I say something about illegal immigrants not being nice - and all that other stuff?

[Thumpalumpacus]

You're all a joke.  You don't care a bit about about the plight of the people in the inner cities.  All you care about is your hatred for Donald Trump and you're ready to destroy anyone who tries to work with him to do anything to help.  In the meantime people with no hope continue to kill each other off in the inner cities while you go on about who the right person is to help them.  The election of Obama was supposed to bring about improved race relations in the country, but after eight years this attitude exists even more as they tear to shreds anyone who tries to work with "the man" to help solve the problem.  What a bunch of crap.

Harvey is interested in using Trump to advance his own religious agenda. The proclaimed concern over inner-city conditions is simply a fig-leaf of "respectability".

[Lek]

You're all a joke.  You don't care a bit about about the plight of the people in the inner cities.  All you care about is your hatred for Donald Trump and you're ready to destroy anyone who tries to work with him to do anything to help.  In the meantime people with no hope continue to kill each other off in the inner cities while you go on about who the right person is to help them.  The election of Obama was supposed to bring about improved race relations in the country, but after eight years this attitude exists even more as they tear to shreds anyone who tries to work with "the man" to help solve the problem.  What a bunch of crap.

Harvey is interested in using Trump to advance his own religious agenda. The proclaimed concern over inner-city conditions is simply a fig-leaf of "respectability".

In other words, anyone who is christian and trying to help people is a selfish fake.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Harvey is interested in using Trump to advance his own religious agenda. The proclaimed concern over inner-city conditions is simply a fig-leaf of "respectability".

In other words, anyone who is christian and trying to help people is a selfish fake.

I'm unsure how you got from "Steve Harvey" to "any Christian".

In the future, if you're unsure what I'm saying, you're better off simply asking me, rather than making a fool of yourself with this sort of "reasoning".

[Lek]

In other words, anyone who is christian and trying to help people is a selfish fake.

I'm unsure how you got from "Steve Harvey" to "any Christian".

In the future, if you're unsure what I'm saying, you're better off simply asking me, rather than making a fool of yourself with this sort of "reasoning".

Then tell me why you think Steve Harvey is simple trying to advance his own agenda.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'm unsure how you got from "Steve Harvey" to "any Christian".

In the future, if you're unsure what I'm saying, you're better off simply asking me, rather than making a fool of yourself with this sort of "reasoning".

Then tell me why you think Steve Harvey is simple trying to advance his own agenda.

His own history.

[Brian37]

Yeah...lick them boots, boy. Massa likes 'em nice and shiny.

Fuck Steve Harvey.

Always think it's funny how black people react to other black people who free themselves from the plantation. Almost like black identity is to be a victim. It's really sad and a major reason black America is stuck in the poverty trap. Always blaming something or someone else. You get what you give, and the only thing you have control over is your mind because thought manifest into the real world. You should look to black conservatives, they are free. Black progressives, just manage the plantation. That's why black leftists call black conservatives, sell outs, house negros, negropeans, oreos, etc. They want the black America to remain on the plantation, and pressure their followers to not leave so they can continue their hustle.

Ever listen to the mulligan brothers motivational youtube channel? I listen to it when I'm at the gym.

Holy fuck, no you dubmass, Obama was also successful, so don't fucking go there. Beyonce is also rich. Oprah is also rich.  The Williams sisters of Tennis fame are also RICH.

Wealth by itself is not a measure of a person. Trump is also wealthy but a complete fucking asshole. 

His conservatism makes him as much ignorant to poverty issues as Trump.

You didn't read a fucking thing any of us said. 

NOBODY IS BEGRUDGING HIM OR HARVEY or any wealthy black person for moving up. SO FUCKING KNOCK THAT SHIT OFF.

Nobody is demanding everyone be poor to prove a loyalty to a class. SO AGAIN FUCKING KNOCK IT OFF.

While blacks don't have it as bad as the days of slavery, nor as bad as the days of segregation RACISM and bigotry still exists, and because of that minorities, not just blacks, but Hispanics and LGBT are far more likely to be treated negatively by our economy legal system.  That is NOT a demand for any minority to stay poor YOU DUMBFUCK.

That rich black guy and even other middle class and rich blacks still even then, while wearing suits and driving nice cars get pulled over. So not even that wealth frees them from others suspecting them. 

But unless our entire nation faces the roots of our dark history your moronic argument of "Rich black republicans prove you are wrong", is misleading and delusional at best.

Poor rural whites and middle class whites are also finding it harder and harder to pay their bills. None of that changes the fact that ON AVERAGE minorities such as Hispanics and Blacks and migrants from other parts of the world are ON AVERAGE going to be affected more negatively than whites. 

If you really want race not to be an issue, then drop that argument. Nobody is begrudging a black person going up the ladder, nobody should.

It still remains with the climate at the top, REGARDLESS OF COLOR, that the pay gap is too big, and our poverty wages are affecting more and more long term but again, between poor WV whites and poor urban blacks, between suburban whites and suburban blacks, blacks are still behind on economics. Not be because they want to be DUMBASS.

If blacks and Hispanics and whites all have wages that keep up with the cost of living the more stable everyone is. Harvey and this guy in this link and Carson miss this point. Obama does not miss that point, I don't miss the point. 

"SJW" AND "Identity Politics" are new words the right invented to divide people by race and class.

You or him trying to accuse black or white liberals of wanting to keep blacks down is fucking  absurd. 

What the rich miss, even rich blacks such as your example also miss is that the math in reality, is not there for everyone black or white, to end up at the top all a the same time. If everyone is rich all at the same time, who will do the work? This is the same bullshit other white people pull with me being white myself with the "starter job bullshit" they never think about who is working fast food or retail while the teens or college kids are in school. They never look at the actual faces behind the counters, if they did, they would KNOW white and black employees of retail and fast food are mostly in their mid 20s to mid 30s with KIDS. 

When you use that plantation slur against liberals trying to shame us, you also insult my legally blind redneck liberal friend in Oklahoma, whom, if the GOP now in charge guts funding for College dept relief and medical care for his health problems, will keep him in dept for decades and possibly end him up in the ER, so when you say we shouldn't make it a race issue, then don't fucking do it yourself.

[Lek]

Then tell me why you think Steve Harvey is simple trying to advance his own agenda.

His own history.

In other words, you don't know.