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Proof of God
#11
RE: Proof of God
Somebody dropped an O from their user name.
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#12
RE: Proof of God
(January 18, 2017 at 7:41 am)B0B Wrote: The existence of an orderly universe containing life points to a Creator.

All of that verbiage could have been boiled down into this one claim.  But is it true?  Does a ring shaped conglomeration of fungus, a fairy ring, imply that someone created that order?  No it does not.  In the same way, life does not necessarily point to the existence of a creator, even in the absence of a bunch of hollow talk about evolution and abiogenesis.  There is order that is created and order that occurs naturally, and there is not one test you can apply which will distinguish the two.

Your assertion is false.



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Quote:The Giant’s Causeway, Northern Ireland’s most iconic landmark, has attracted millions of curious travelers over the centuries. Some 40,000 strange, interlocking columns form a “road” of stepping stones that lead from the coastal cliffs down into the sea. The edges of each column line up so perfectly they look like the work of a skilled Inca mason.

Rising up along northern Ireland’s coast is a series of tall, geometric stepping stones. These basalt columns formed during the flood, as lava oozed over the region, cracking into regular patterns as it cooled.

Legend has it that Irish giant Finn MacCool built the causeway so he could travel across the sea to fight a challenger in Scotland without getting his feet wet. (Similar columns rise from the sea in the Scottish Isles.) Evolutionary geologists say the causeway was formed by massive volcanic eruptions 50–60 million years ago.

https://answersingenesis.org/geology/nat...-causeway/

(The folks at AIG attribute its formation to a global flood.)
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#13
RE: Proof of God
What would a universe that isn't orderly be like anyway?
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#14
RE: Proof of God
One without a god, silly.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Quote:Along the coast of New Zealand, overly large and spherical boulders lie scattered on Koekohe Beach. Exhumed by coastal erosion, these boulders were created by the cementation of Paleocene. Nature formed these huge round rocks similar to how an oyster makes a pearl. Instead of a grain of sand, these beautiful boulders began as a fossil shell or perhaps small pieces of wood. Lime and minerals from the sea accumulated over time and grew up to perfect spherical shapes, some up to 9 feet in diameter. Local legend spins a tale of how these massive gray rocks came to rest on the shore, another example of man attempting to explain away how nature could form something so spectacular.

http://webecoist.momtastic.com/2009/07/2...KKF27HM.99
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#16
RE: Proof of God
OP: this is all well and good for people that all ready believe. Using it here is preaching to the wrong choir. 

Ya got anything else beside "look to the bible"?
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#17
RE: Proof of God
That is a big wall of text, and I didn't read it all, but I'll address your first point.

Quote:"...what may be known about God is clearly evident among them, for God made it clear to them.  For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship,..." (Romans 1:19, 20).

This says absolutely nothing. What evidence is clearly evident? What invisible attributes can be clearly seen? Even to this day, christians can't come to a clear idea of what their god is. There are protestants that don't even believe catholics count as christians.

This quote is an empty platitude, answering nothing, so why start with it? You move on to the next topic before even explaining the first bible quote.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#18
RE: Proof of God
Dear Diary: Today I started to make good on my New Year's resolution to bring the Word of God to the heathens. I pray that God gives me the discernment to cherry pick Scripture, crib arguments from AIG and the Discovery Institute, pretend I understand philosophy, and generally bluff and bluster around the utter lack of evidence for any of my claims. May the atheists be blinded to the emptiness of my arguments that they may finally see the light and acknowledge their Creator. Tomorrow, I'll hit them with quotes from Josephus and Tacitus so they can understand that every word of the Gospels is true and Jesus truly rose from the dead, as well. It's going to be a great year, praise God! I will be a fisher of men. Amen.
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RE: Proof of God
(January 18, 2017 at 9:29 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: [Image: main-qimg-573561d6bed7c65de7e7c56278c20d..._webp=true]

Quote:Along the coast of New Zealand, overly large and spherical boulders lie scattered on Koekohe Beach. Exhumed by coastal erosion, these boulders were created by the cementation of Paleocene. Nature formed these huge round rocks similar to how an oyster makes a pearl. Instead of a grain of sand, these beautiful boulders began as a fossil shell or perhaps small pieces of wood. Lime and minerals from the sea accumulated over time and grew up to perfect spherical shapes, some up to 9 feet in diameter. Local legend spins a tale of how these massive gray rocks came to rest on the shore, another example of man attempting to explain away how nature could form something so spectacular.

http://webecoist.momtastic.com/2009/07/2...KKF27HM.99

That's a lot of balls.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#20
RE: Proof of God
Quote:but proving anything is very difficult.


I can prove that there's a sun in the sky and I haven't even had my coffee yet...
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