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Why do atheists think Original Sin isn't real?
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Yeah, the nuttery of inherited/original sin seems to be unique to Christianity. Even Judaism (except of a few obscure-ish sects) doesn't believe that humans are born tainted with sin.
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‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
 (January 21, 2017 at 7:38 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Everyone is born a sinner? How can a new born baby have committed a sin, it hasn't had chance to do anything yet. The point is, even the little baby will at some point commit sin. There is a gravitation for humans to commit sin. 
OP: Yes, not real, end of story.
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January 21, 2017 at 10:48 am
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2017 at 10:49 am by Whateverist.)
Pretty sure "original sin" refers to defects created in our manufacture for which the manufacturer will hold us accountable. Groveling is the only remedy. But as atheists the usual response is "do your worst, sky fairy".
 (January 21, 2017 at 9:15 am)pool the great Wrote: The point is, even the little baby will at some point commit sin. There is a gravitation for humans to commit sin. You have your causation exactly backwards, though. Sin as a concept was created to be unavoidable, so that the authors of the bible could convict everyone as guilty and sell them the cure to the threat of hell. It's not so much that humans gravitate toward sin, but that sin was built out of behaviors and thoughts that human beings naturally gravitate toward.
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January 21, 2017 at 11:17 am
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January 21, 2017 at 11:32 am
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(January 21, 2017 at 3:44 am)pool the great Wrote: Oh, so Original Sin do[es] make sense. It's just not accepted by atheists because they don't believe in God. The question in the thread title asks why atheists don't think it's real. Not believing in the Author of Sin is probably a good reason for not accepting Original Sin. You'll note that nowhere did I say, or imply, that OS makes sense, contrary to what you write here. I just wanted to make sure that my personal stance on it is clear: the idea that damnation is heritable is stupid considering that the god putting it into place is said to be perfectly just.  (January 21, 2017 at 9:15 am)pool the great Wrote: The point is, even the little baby will at some point commit sin. There is a gravitation for humans to commit sin. That's utter nonsense (I'm, like, totally shocked, for realz). There's no such thing as sin. Sin, by definition is a transgression against god. There is no god - therefore there is no sin. And no - there is no "gravitation for humans to commit sin". There's just a tendency among religions - and christian churches in particular - to stigmatize certain natural behaviors of humans, in order to induce feelings of guilt, shame and worthlessness among their gullible flocks, so that priests can sell forgiveness.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
It makes more sense to forget about original sin, focus on sin, and ask why would atheists believe in sin?
Sin is a transgression of divine law. If atheists don't believe in the divine then why believe in divine law? Fucking crazy question to ask why don't atheists believe in original sin. Unless you mean sin defined as some other meaning like doing something wrong, or eating chocolate when you're on a diet plan or something. Additionally as other people mentioned I think you actually got the definition of original sin wrong anyway. I'm sure that what it basically means is that people are born with sin when they haven't done anything wrong. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. (January 21, 2017 at 11:46 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: And no - there is no "gravitation for humans to commit sin". There's just a tendency among religions - and christian churches in particular - to stigmatize certain natural behaviors of humans, in order to induce feelings of guilt, shame and worthlessness among their gullible flocks, so that priests can sell forgiveness. Indeed. In that sense, it's analogous to the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy. |
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