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Violence in Islam
#21
RE: Violence in Islam
Violence is prescribed all the way through the Koran.  It has spread through violence in its whole history. Isis follows the Koran to the letter and should not be considered as extremists. The Koran may not teach how to make a car bomb, but, as we know, they didn't have cars when it was written. It does say how to chop off arms and legs on opposing sides, behead, pour boiling oil down throats, rape, and all sorts of other vile things. It should be pushed out of the west all together.
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#22
RE: Violence in Islam
The Quran is indeed fucking horrible. I'm going through it with Hugo and Jake from TBR. I knew it was bad, but it's even worse than I imagined.
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#23
RE: Violence in Islam
The question was asked as to which muslim army conquered Indonesia.
The Demak Sultanate overthrew the Hindu rulers of Java in 1527 ushering a 'dark age' where the stone built cities of the hindus were abandoned and civilization broke up into tribes living in wooden huts.
Why isn't India entirely muslim? As seems to have been common with islamic empires the Mughals had a loose, almost chaotic grasp over their realm. another factor is that the muslims were economically hastrung and reliant on credit from hindu bankers due to the prohibition of money lending in the Qu'ran.
When islamic leaders threatened their creditors the hindu bankers arranged to have their overlords deposed, ultimately bringing in the East India Company as an entity they could control almost entirely via finance.
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#24
RE: Violence in Islam
Degeneracy at it's best, I hate it when right wingers say that atheists only complain about Christianity when Islam is equally barbaric. The Qur'an is absolutely disgusting no doubt about it, however no point in a debate or simple argument. Muslims will just deny you when you point out the obvious, it really is that simple.
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#25
RE: Violence in Islam
(January 25, 2017 at 6:48 pm)momo666 Wrote: I have heard the argument that violence in Islam is only prescribed in self defense and that any verse that condones violence is doing so in the context of an ongoing attack started by someone else.

Thoughts ?

It's bullshit. The Koran tells muslims to kill all "unbelievers".

That's not just atheists, by the way. That's all non-muslims and apostates.
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#26
RE: Violence in Islam
Why would you ask Atheists this question?
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#27
RE: Violence in Islam
Maybe OP doesn't trust muslims to answer it.  Go figure.   Rolleyes
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#28
RE: Violence in Islam
(February 24, 2017 at 2:08 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Why would you ask Atheists this question?

because it would be a valid response, plus anyone can answer, it just isn't justified.
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#29
RE: Violence in Islam
I don't criticize Islam because I have a family.
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